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Butch Taylor 43 64.18%
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Old 10-30-2018, 01:42 PM   #41
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Yeah, all musicians stay exactly the same at all times. They never get any worse, and certainly NEVER get any better. Buddy has just started playing with DMB. What he knows with them now is all he will ever know - no matter how long he stays with them. To think anything else is absolutely foolish.
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Old 10-30-2018, 02:09 PM   #42
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Yeah, all musicians stay exactly the same at all times. They never get any worse, and certainly NEVER get any better. Buddy has just started playing with DMB. What he knows with them now is all he will ever know - no matter how long he stays with them. To think anything else is absolutely foolish.
I can see Buddy catching a case of the RR's.. I really like him so far but I don't see him toning things down. I don't love the church vibe, and wish he'd play more jazz like Butch did. We heard bits and pieces of it, especially in those Bartender jams, but overall I sure hope he doesn't start playing more for show and less for our ears.
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Old 10-30-2018, 02:16 PM   #43
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The biggest problem with that is that DMB just seems to be moving away from subtlety all together.

When they do it though, they are really great. (see VITR - which of course they never play now).
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You’re right, he’ll definitely get more tasteful. The constant over the top ball washing from Dave should help.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:22 PM   #45
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I can see Buddy catching a case of the RR's.. I really like him so far but I don't see him toning things down. I don't love the church vibe, and wish he'd play more jazz like Butch did. We heard bits and pieces of it, especially in those Bartender jams, but overall I sure hope he doesn't start playing more for show and less for our ears.
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Old 10-30-2018, 11:57 PM   #46
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Buddy.

Butch solos bored me to tears. Buddy does a better job of complimenting their sound and that is all i want a keyboard to do in this band. Not be a standout instrument.
I dont want to hear keyboard solos. I felt like they went over the top trying to highlight him.
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Old 11-03-2018, 12:44 PM   #47
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Buddy needs to vary his tone more. Not every song or every fill sounds best with an organ. Play some nice clean piano tones. Play some thick, funky clavinet.
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Old 11-04-2018, 10:32 AM   #48
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I think it's too early to really judge and compare. That being said I was never a really huge fan of Butch, I felt like he slowed things down, he meandered in most of his solos and overall was happy when he exited and Tim came in.

I think thus far Buddy has added a lot to the music and performances, some of the 2018 rotation songs were sounding better than they have in years thanks to his contributions to the arrangements.
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Old 11-14-2018, 03:36 PM   #49
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I think a better poll would be Butch's first full year vs. Buddy's first full year. I think that comparison makes more sense since, as most everyone has mentioned, Buddy has only played a single summer with DMB.
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:26 PM   #50
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What would we consider Butch’s first year? 2000?
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Yeah I mean, I get that even comparing it that way is a bit tricky because of all the splitting hairs and technicalities of what some would consider Butch's first FULL tour/year. He missed a few shows in the summer of 2000, but I would still say I consider that summer tour his first full stint with DMB. BUT some could say his first full YEAR wasn't until 2001. I guess I would say it's summer 2000.


Even with how happy the band seems to be with Buddy, and I do like some things he did this summer, we have to be honest about why he was brought in. He was brought in for two reasons; 1) he was there to fill the void of a missing instrument and 2) the studio sessions sorta dictated someone needed to be there on keys. I'm just saying that I keep seeing people say how happy the band was this summer and a lot of that had to do with having to mix things up a bit, someone leaves, someone enters. It literally could have been almost anyone on the keys. I think Buddy did a really good job with DMB this summer, but when we're comparing a first full run with DMB....the band (Dave) about a month and a half into the 2000 summer tour was calling Butch Taylor "Number 6". That was a BIG deal then. This is before Rashawn joined, before Tim came on board, before Roi's death and Jeff's entrance...it was before all these personell changes over the last 10 years. Butch's first summer tour with DMB gave the band (and in particular Dave and Carter) a gleam in their eyes that only happened with very few musicians over the years (Bela, Tim, Warren, and a few others).


I think part of why I enjoyed Buddy's contributions this year is because the horns were not as overbearing and I could enjoy some of the intricacies that Buddy was bringing to the table. But even with the singing and the band being happy, it just didn't hold the magic that happened when Butch came on board that first summer tour in 2000. I'm not trying to compare years either. That would be crazy and not fair. I'm just comparing their conributions to the music and shows of each of their first tours, along with the impact they had on the band.


So for me, it's Butch.
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The most noticeable differences when Buddy joined was that Tim toned his shredding down. The band's sound is balanced again.
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Buddy.

Butch solos bored me to tears. Buddy does a better job of complimenting their sound and that is all i want a keyboard to do in this band. Not be a standout instrument.
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Butch is boring as hell and slowed them down way too much. He encouraged their lazy habits instead of making them step up and move a bit.
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Yeah I mean, I get that even comparing it that way is a bit tricky because of all the splitting hairs and technicalities of what some would consider Butch's first FULL tour/year. He missed a few shows in the summer of 2000, but I would still say I consider that summer tour his first full stint with DMB. BUT some could say his first full YEAR wasn't until 2001. I guess I would say it's summer 2000.


Even with how happy the band seems to be with Buddy, and I do like some things he did this summer, we have to be honest about why he was brought in. He was brought in for two reasons; 1) he was there to fill the void of a missing instrument and 2) the studio sessions sorta dictated someone needed to be there on keys. I'm just saying that I keep seeing people say how happy the band was this summer and a lot of that had to do with having to mix things up a bit, someone leaves, someone enters. It literally could have been almost anyone on the keys. I think Buddy did a really good job with DMB this summer, but when we're comparing a first full run with DMB....the band (Dave) about a month and a half into the 2000 summer tour was calling Butch Taylor "Number 6". That was a BIG deal then. This is before Rashawn joined, before Tim came on board, before Roi's death and Jeff's entrance...it was before all these personell changes over the last 10 years. Butch's first summer tour with DMB gave the band (and in particular Dave and Carter) a gleam in their eyes that only happened with very few musicians over the years (Bela, Tim, Warren, and a few others).


I think part of why I enjoyed Buddy's contributions this year is because the horns were not as overbearing and I could enjoy some of the intricacies that Buddy was bringing to the table. But even with the singing and the band being happy, it just didn't hold the magic that happened when Butch came on board that first summer tour in 2000. I'm not trying to compare years either. That would be crazy and not fair. I'm just comparing their conributions to the music and shows of each of their first tours, along with the impact they had on the band.


So for me, it's Butch.
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Old 11-19-2018, 10:02 PM   #55
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I think it's pretty weird to say that playing with Butch gave them a gleam in their eyes that Buddy isn't. They're hyping the shit out of the dude at every show and in every interview. There's some gleam.
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