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Old 09-18-2018, 02:08 PM   #21
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It's almost impossible to grade this album properly because I can't separate your comparative feelings for certain tracks as they were on LWS. I'd love to know how I'd feel about it if I had only ever heard BS.
Oh exactly. I'm also curious to see how people rank the Lillywhite Sessions, which I'll do a poll on when the rest of the official studio albums are ranked.
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:19 PM   #22
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Yeah it’s very hard to objectively rank without comparing to LWS.

Maybe unpopular, but I view WAYG, captain and busted stuff pretty much on the same level lyrically. I don’t think WAYG is terrible and I don’t the the other two are all that good. There’s no denying you never know and bartender are great songs and grey street is a personal favorite. Overall an 8.
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:03 PM   #23
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Love the songs. The production on a few of them leaves much to be desired, for obvious reasons. But I still give it an 8.

Great production: Grey Street, Raven, Digging a Ditch.

Good production: Where Are You Going, You Never Know, Busted Stuff, Grace is Gone, Kit Kat Jam.

Crummy production: Big Eyed Fish, Bartender, Captain.

By production I don't just mean how the songs sound, but also how they were actually put together. So maybe it's a 7.5?
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:20 PM   #24
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I gave it a 5. At highest would go with a 6.

I dislike the production on almost everything but Grey Street.

And Big Eyed Fish was a complete let down from the LWS version.

Could have been so much better.
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:03 PM   #25
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Love the songs. The production on a few of them leaves much to be desired, for obvious reasons. But I still give it an 8.

Great production: Grey Street, Raven, Digging a Ditch.

Good production: Where Are You Going, You Never Know, Busted Stuff, Grace is Gone, Kit Kat Jam.

Crummy production: Big Eyed Fish, Bartender, Captain.

By production I don't just mean how the songs sound, but also how they were actually put together. So maybe it's a 7.5?
You really think Bartenderís production is crummy? I feel like youíre just comparing it to LWS, no? I think both versions are great in their own ways.
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:57 PM   #26
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I voted 7. The same as Everyday. Even though I think Everyday is a better “album”, the songs on Busted Stuff are just so much better. The production is lousy and you can tell. It’s exactly as they planned it; a release of songs we wanted for the whole LWS/ED situation.

Easily could have been a 9-10 if the band even made an effort into making this an actual album. Instead, it’s just songs we all wanted officially released, with the addition of “You Never Know”, which is probably the most rewarding part of this release.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:09 PM   #27
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I like the songs so much that I can't go anything less than an 8. From a purely songwriting perspective, disregarding jams and live bombast, my five favorite DMB tunes are all on this album (Grey Street, Grace, Bartender, Raven, YNK). The production is bland and some of the choices are questionable, particularly Captain, but it's gotta be at least an 8 for me.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:34 PM   #28
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I gave it a 7. It's the best collection of songs on an album right next to BTCS that the band has ever put out, but the lack of interesting production hurts it. The songs sound pretty much just like live takes in the studio which is fine, but it's not what I'm looking for from a studio track. I'm looking for more depth and mood in general from a studio song, and this album just doesn't have it. Still really solid effort overall, but prefer the live versions of all these songs more so and don't find much motivation to go back to the studio versions like I do with BTCS or UTTAD.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:50 PM   #29
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You really think Bartenderís production is crummy? I feel like youíre just comparing it to LWS, no? I think both versions are great in their own ways.
Of course I am. Hard not to. The BS version roars louder than the LWS one, which is more soulful, mainly due to LeRoi.

(I suppose I can take them each for what they're worth, but it's difficult.)

Also, I love Stefan on YNK.

I guess maybe the flubs on the album Busted Stuff aren't really flubs and are there to also demonstrate the busted stuff they had to offer?
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It's really not that hard to not judge what's there without comparing.
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Old 09-18-2018, 10:13 PM   #31
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I gave it a six
Never listen to it, go with lws day in and day out over it.
The bad part of it is that the songs are unfinished and not fully produced imo
Clearly just to satisfy lws supporters vs being "done right"
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I've got to listen to this to make an honest call. It's been so long I can't remember the last time I listened to this album. I want to say somewhere between 7 and 8?
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It's really not that hard to not judge what's there without comparing.
Sure it is. It's as if WAYG and YNK were the sound they wanted from that era and the rest of the Lws tracks they included were brushed with the same production values to match. So what you have is a bunch of songs that sound vastly sonically different from their "original" takes. Even if you don't say, "Captain on Bs is crap compared to the Lws one" you can't help but compare the two alone based on how different they sound. One may not be better than the other in your mind, but they're mirror images for a reason. This cannot be ignored.
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:00 PM   #34
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The biggest difference between LWS and BS is the "Mood" of the album. The production on LWS was dark, mellow, subdued and really had a thematic polish to it (and it wasn't even finished). Busted Stuff didn't have that. It was cohesive but dry. There wasn't a "feel" to the album if that makes sense. Some Devil has this airy, fall feel to it, BTCS has this complex, dark, sophistcated feel...Busted Stuff is just a collection of songs that are really good, but that's it.
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:33 AM   #35
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Rate 'Busted Stuff'

7-8. Production issues here and there but really solid tunes. Obviously I prefer some LWS takes to the BS takes, but [We’ll] Never Know what could’ve been. Thumbtimes that is the problem...
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:48 AM   #36
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I gave it a six
Never listen to it, go with lws day in and day out over it.
The bad part of it is that the songs are unfinished and not fully produced imo
Clearly just to satisfy lws supporters vs being "done right"
Same for me.
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Old 09-19-2018, 01:52 PM   #37
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I gave it a six
Never listen to it, go with lws day in and day out over it.
The bad part of it is that the songs are unfinished and not fully produced imo
Clearly just to satisfy lws supporters vs being "done right"
Yeah, it was basically, "here you go assholes...here are the LWS songs."
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Yeah, it was basically, "here you go assholes...here are the LWS songs."
Absolutely. The production on Bartender has always irked me the most. Just seems rushed, which, I guess it was.
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Yeah, it was basically, "here you go assholes...here are the LWS songs."
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Sure it is. It's as if WAYG and YNK were the sound they wanted from that era and the rest of the Lws tracks they included were brushed with the same production values to match. So what you have is a bunch of songs that sound vastly sonically different from their "original" takes. Even if you don't say, "Captain on Bs is crap compared to the Lws one" you can't help but compare the two alone based on how different they sound. One may not be better than the other in your mind, but they're mirror images for a reason. This cannot be ignored.
The album has been out 16 years. You had the LWS for 18 months before that. You listen to a ton of music, I know you do. We listen to different versions of songs all the time. You are skilled enough to judge what's there and not what's not. Give yourself credit.
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