Best 3.0 Song. Round 2 (CHOOSE WORST ON LIST)

[gweeps]

Originally Posted by jsandr I will never understand the hatred for The Riff. Especially in comparison to 90% of the garbage this band has released since 2005. I guess i just hear it totally differently. Shrug. Not calling it an all time great or something, but hey. One of the few studio recordings of late i really want to go back to and listen on headphones.

The Riff is definitely underrated. It's a moody thing.

[Steveo Style]

Originally Posted by jsandr Come on come on in no way sounds better. Of course its a shit song masquerading as a wanna be epic from the start.

I don't blame you for not liking the song, but there's no denying its improvement. Especially since they sped it back up a bit and improved the end jam.

[greykitkat36]

Originally Posted by jsandr I will never understand the hatred for The Riff. Especially in comparison to 90% of the garbage this band has released since 2005. I guess i just hear it totally differently. Shrug. Not calling it an all time great or something, but hey. One of the few studio recordings of late i really want to go back to and listen on headphones.

My reasoning is that it sounds like a bunch of random parts/ideas mushed together and forced into a single song. None of it sounds like it fits together to me. The Beatles were the only band that was good at doing that sort of thing, no one else comes close.

On top of that, this chorus is just downright cringey:

If you stay with me
that don't mean we gotta stay the same
if you stay with me
well baby, you and me we'll change the game

Lyrically there are worse songs, but the melody Dave sings on this combined with the lyrics and delivery almost totally ruin the song for me everytime. That's unfortunately the case with almost every 3.0 DMB song. There's always just one section or part that just sound force-fed in and it's either really cheesy or just so random that it destroys the flow.

[cgator41]

Originally Posted by Steveo Style I don't blame you for not liking the song, but there's no denying its improvement. Especially since they sped it back up a bit and improved the end jam.

Dave cannot sing it, though. It might be the only song I've ever heard him sing consistently out of tune on. Studio version is miles better.

[.Gary.]

I like the vibe of Riff. Cool intro.

But man those lyrics are abysmal.

[JamSession v2.0]

Originally Posted by Fan#41 I just don't like Bismarck.

Why not? I mean, I am a fucking Bismarck STAN, so my mind is biased. But I won't fight you - I'm just interested in knowing what about it you don't find appealing.

[Jayes]

Kitkat nailed it: the riff is forced-together jumbled garbage.

[JamSession v2.0]

Originally Posted by Jayes Kitkat nailed it: the riff is forced-together jumbled garbage.

Correct. + that obnoxious noise that Tim makes.

[greykitkat36]

Originally Posted by cgator41 Dave cannot sing it, though. It might be the only song I've ever heard him sing consistently out of tune on. Studio version is miles better.

Agreed. I really had faith that COCO was going to become a really good live song, but then they started playing it super slow and allowed Rashawn to have the solo at the end. If they sped it up drastically (even faster than the album version) and gave Jerf the solo instead (and had him play licks throughout) it’d be miles and miles better. I didn’t like the direction they went with it.

[Steveo Style]

I think the version they released from last summer (Indiana?) was a great version that he sang in tune. And a nice slow song, especially the jam.

[KwaKeeSirPeeNeeKu]

The Riff is way less of a “jumbled mess” than Shotgun, a song that half this board slobbers all over.

[Tomacco]

Originally Posted by KwaKeeSirPeeNeeKu The Riff is way less of a “jumbled mess” than Shotgun, a song that half this board slobbers all over.

I agree.
And I also think both songs are weak.

[greykitkat36]

Originally Posted by KwaKeeSirPeeNeeKu The Riff is way less of a “jumbled mess” than Shotgun, a song that half this board slobbers all over.

Funny you mention that, the next tournament I’m going to do after this is Best 2.0 song.

[roshea999]

The Riff is a great idea that's unfinished and poorly executed. There's some really cool lyrics in the song and a fair bit of cringe. Typical post 2000 Dave Matthews. Not even Lillywhite could salvage it.

[dmb1981]

Originally Posted by roshea999 The Riff is a great idea that's unfinished and poorly executed. There's some really cool lyrics in the song and a fair bit of cringe. Typical post 2000 Dave Matthews. Not even Lillywhite could salvage it.

Great verse, an atrocity of a chorus.

[ThememanXX]

Originally Posted by KwaKeeSirPeeNeeKu The Riff is way less of a “jumbled mess” than Shotgun, a song that half this board slobbers all over.

Shotgun is a jumbled mess, but the music is phenomenal. Blows 'The Riff' out of the water. If they could tighten it up and finish it, it'd be a monster.

[roshea999]

Originally Posted by dmb1981 Great verse, an atrocity of a chorus.

that's how I feel

[Jayes]

Originally Posted by KwaKeeSirPeeNeeKu The Riff is way less of a “jumbled mess” than Shotgun, a song that half this board slobbers all over.

I disagree. While some parts feel shoehorned, my heels hurt WAAAY less on Shotgun. I feel they pulled it off. Fuckin solid DMB tune.