The Official "Work Sucks/Complain a About Your Job" Thread

[Caveat Emperor]

My office closes at noon tomorrow. #YOLO

[ggies]

Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor My office closes at noon tomorrow. #YOLO

I work in the admin building of a private school, we get Fridays off in the Summer starting June 6th. #YOLO

[Josh.0]

Wanna hear something else rich?

Like six months ago, I was working 60-70 hours a week and my boss kept telling me how I needed to pick up the pace and how my projects were lacking (while, keep in mind, I was juggling TWICE as many projects as any other person in my role). I was in a rut where I felt like no matter how hard or smart I worked, I just couldn't do anything to make anyone happy.

I finally hit a wall, and in the last month or two I've had more of a "fuck it" attitude and been working only 40-45 hours a week. I mean, I'm literally spending at least an hour a day dicking around on the internet, often coming in after 9a and leaving RIGHT at 5p. Today my boss tells me "you've been doing such a tremendous job. Everyone keeps talking about how good your projects are going. Kudos to you."

Fucking unreal. What a world.

[Caveat Emperor]

Originally Posted by Josh.0 Wanna hear something else rich? Like six months ago, I was working 60-70 hours a week and my boss kept telling me how I needed to pick up the pace and how my projects were lacking (while, keep in mind, I was juggling TWICE as many projects as any other person in my role). I was in a rut where I felt like no matter how hard or smart I worked, I just couldn't do anything to make anyone happy. I finally hit a wall, and in the last month or two I've had more of a "fuck it" attitude and been working only 40-45 hours a week. I mean, I'm literally spending at least an hour a day dicking around on the internet, often coming in after 9a and leaving RIGHT at 5p. Today my boss tells me "you've been doing such a tremendous job. Everyone keeps talking about how good your projects are going. Kudos to you." Fucking unreal. What a world.

[Tomacco]

Originally Posted by Josh.0 "Infiniti: Infinitely boring the shit out of their marking team since 1989."

Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor "Infiniti: Are you sure you wouldn't just rather have a BMW? Really? Well -- Ok then."

Originally Posted by ThememanXX Infiniti: If you have $40k to burn, why not?

Thanks for the help. Fortunately I have other accounts to work on besides Infiniti to keep me sane. Just don't feel like writing headlines today.

[Tomacco]

Originally Posted by Josh.0 Wanna hear something else rich? Like six months ago, I was working 60-70 hours a week and my boss kept telling me how I needed to pick up the pace and how my projects were lacking (while, keep in mind, I was juggling TWICE as many projects as any other person in my role). I was in a rut where I felt like no matter how hard or smart I worked, I just couldn't do anything to make anyone happy. I finally hit a wall, and in the last month or two I've had more of a "fuck it" attitude and been working only 40-45 hours a week. I mean, I'm literally spending at least an hour a day dicking around on the internet, often coming in after 9a and leaving RIGHT at 5p. Today my boss tells me "you've been doing such a tremendous job. Everyone keeps talking about how good your projects are going. Kudos to you." Fucking unreal. What a world.

Lucky you. Just be glad you're not in the type of office where it's a badge of honor to work late hours, and people actively notice and scoff when you leave before they do. Unless they do and you just don't care, haha.

[Josh.0]

They do and I just don't care.

One woman in my group literally works from about 7:30am until 7-8pm. EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. I think she thinks it makes her look like a rock star, but most of us just think she's insane.

[mja271]

Fuck people like that. I'm not going to be a martyr, and it just looks you look more desperate if anything

[MaLaKaS]

Originally Posted by Josh.0 Wanna hear something else rich? Like six months ago, I was working 60-70 hours a week and my boss kept telling me how I needed to pick up the pace and how my projects were lacking (while, keep in mind, I was juggling TWICE as many projects as any other person in my role). I was in a rut where I felt like no matter how hard or smart I worked, I just couldn't do anything to make anyone happy. I finally hit a wall, and in the last month or two I've had more of a "fuck it" attitude and been working only 40-45 hours a week. I mean, I'm literally spending at least an hour a day dicking around on the internet, often coming in after 9a and leaving RIGHT at 5p. Today my boss tells me "you've been doing such a tremendous job. Everyone keeps talking about how good your projects are going. Kudos to you." Fucking unreal. What a world.

I'm in a similar position. If anything, this job helped me to realize what I do and do t like. What is a good for for me and what isn't.

[DMBTex10101]

Originally Posted by blumathu I was a developer but am now an architect, what are you curious about?

I too am an architect. I was curious to hear others views on the role.

As far as I can tell there are 3 types of SW Architects:

#1 Those who actually understand their role as an architect and execute it as such.
#2 The arrogant asshats who only have an architect title because they've been at the company a long time and that was the next logical step for them. Typically just glorified developers who don't actually do any architecture.
#3 The architects that either they don't understand what the role is or the company doesn't so they are doing other random things. For instance my company thinks an architect should be the one leading a project, managing the schedule & risk, assigning tasking, the one responsible for code reviews, etc. I've only finally convinced them that they need a Project Manager or a Product Manager to take care of some/most of that stuff.

I've come to conclude that there are a lot of #2 architects out there, so the architect role kind of has a negative connotation to it.

That and I have 2 architects working for me who are both worthless in their own ways (I would put one as a #1 and the other as a #3).

I've also gotten this question from several people, including some senior developers (like senior with 15 years experience): "What does a SW Architect do?".

I'm more curious to hear how the architects are used/viewed in some other companies.

[roshea999]

I'm either unemployed this Sunday... Or next Sunday.

Glad to be done where I am at but fuck

[SonofSuns34]

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this just happened about a mile away from where i work

[blumathu]

Originally Posted by DMBTex10101 I too am an architect. I was curious to hear others views on the role. As far as I can tell there are 3 types of SW Architects: #1 Those who actually understand their role as an architect and execute it as such. #2 The arrogant asshats who only have an architect title because they've been at the company a long time and that was the next logical step for them. Typically just glorified developers who don't actually do any architecture. #3 The architects that either they don't understand what the role is or the company doesn't so they are doing other random things. For instance my company thinks an architect should be the one leading a project, managing the schedule & risk, assigning tasking, the one responsible for code reviews, etc. I've only finally convinced them that they need a Project Manager or a Product Manager to take care of some/most of that stuff. I've come to conclude that there are a lot of #2 architects out there, so the architect role kind of has a negative connotation to it. That and I have 2 architects working for me who are both worthless in their own ways (I would put one as a #1 and the other as a #3). I've also gotten this question from several people, including some senior developers (like senior with 15 years experience): "What does a SW Architect do?". I'm more curious to hear how the architects are used/viewed in some other companies.

Ok so let me step back a bit. I assumed when you said architect you meant #3, because many people think of those folks as architect, when they're really not (as you stated).

I'm really a tech lead type role, doing the things you've mentioned in #3. I work with 3 actual architects at my company, only one of which I'd consider a legitmate architect. The other two are more or less just very experienced tech/dev leads (and good at what they do, maybe just with the wrong job title)

[MaLaKaS]

Originally Posted by SonofSuns34 [Only registered users can see links.] this just happened about a mile away from where i work

This is terrible...

[DMBTex10101]

Originally Posted by blumathu Ok so let me step back a bit. I assumed when you said architect you meant #3, because many people think of those folks as architect, when they're really not (as you stated). I'm really a tech lead type role, doing the things you've mentioned in #3. I work with 3 actual architects at my company, only one of which I'd consider a legitmate architect. The other two are more or less just very experienced tech/dev leads (and good at what they do, maybe just with the wrong job title)

Interesting. Software Architect is still such a new role, and, at least in the web world, I think people are still trying to figure it out exactly how best to use architects.

I find it interesting that a lot of people don't understand what an architect does (a lot of people I talk to simply think it's a developer with a lot of experience). However, on the flip side, almost every project I've worked on, the people on it understand when the project's architecture is lacking or . . . in some cases, completely non-existent. So even if they don't understand the role of an architect, they at least have some definition in their head of what the architecture is, but they cannot make the connection.

Thanks for the input, I wasn't in any way trying to be insulting (or condescending) I hope it didn't come off that way, I'm just struggling to deal with a role that seems to be given out for many different reasons. Which, most of the time, like you said, ends up with someone being given an incorrect title. My struggle is mainly due to my current company's view of an architect (which is #3), and the fact that we are in such desperate need of a true architect (#1).

I do understand that from a developer standpoint, SW Architect looks much better on the resume than Product Lead or Lead Developer. Which may drive some of the title discrepancies, but who knows.

After I posted this the other day I looked around and apparently it's all over in the web world. Seems like web apps are getting more and more complex and now, within the last 3-5 years the architect role is really desperately needed. Only people don't really know what to do with it. They hire/promote a software architect because they know they need an architect, but they don't really know what he should be doing.

Are you doing web development?

[SonofSuns34]

Originally Posted by MaLaKaS This is terrible...

Yeah, kinda glad it wasn't a family coming down for the holiday. They are closing the parkway southbound for an investigation on the busiest weekend of the year... Damn

[MaLaKaS]

Originally Posted by SonofSuns34 Yeah, kinda glad it wasn't a family coming down for the holiday. They are closing the parkway southbound for an investigation on the busiest weekend of the year... Damn

Yea, this is not good.

[blumathu]

Originally Posted by DMBTex10101 Are you doing web development?

Some of it is, yes. We work with a bit of everything.

[RageATL]

Originally Posted by Josh.0 They do and I just don't care. One woman in my group literally works from about 7:30am until 7-8pm. EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. I think she thinks it makes her look like a rock star, but most of us just think she's insane.

I find these folks have nothing at all to go home to, anything they'd rather be doing or are a avoiding something.

[ThememanXX]

Idiots. I'm surrounded by idiots.