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Old 10-13-2017, 07:40 AM   #1
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Inskreecent Proposal: Does Boyd Like Looking at You?

Saw this and thought of the Boyd convo here...
The guy was in Crystal Garden and left last year, doesn't mention who he is talking about but you can draw your own conclusions....

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Old 10-13-2017, 08:02 AM   #2
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Saw this and thought of the Boyd convo here...
The guy was in Crystal Garden and left last year, doesn't mention who he is talking about but you can draw your own conclusions....

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Soooo is he saying he had sexual advances made against him or simply that someone "of power" took advantage of him in general?
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:27 PM   #3
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Great thread title. Was pleasantly surprised upon my return.
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:47 PM   #4
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From what I've gathered, mostly from sheer speculation, it sounds like this James Frost Winn guy got out of the situation (Crystal Garden & BT) before it escalated. I get the vibe that Boyd was making sexual suggestions and advances on him, using sex as a bargaining chip to stay in the band. Or something like that. Based on his Twitter, he left Crystal Garden in August of last yr.
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:47 PM   #5
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It’s kind of weird how many of you want this to be true and blow up. It’s shitty enough being a DMB fan. But I agree it wouldn’t be a surprise at all. When that lawsuit came out I was like yeah I could see that.

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Old 10-23-2017, 05:52 PM   #6
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There does seem to be a weird "rooting for this" vibe going on.
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:56 PM   #7
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There does seem to be a weird "rooting for this" vibe going on.
I know man I was thinking about it the other day and it could very well send Dave over the top to call the band quits.....u never know
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:03 PM   #8
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There does seem to be a weird "rooting for this" vibe going on.
I don't think anyone wants this to be true. It'd be fucking terrible if it's true. It's just that it's hard to dismiss it, because it's not that hard to believe.
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:04 PM   #9
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Can tell the story about Ashley that you and I learned from Texas? Its not creepy or anything.
Shit. Not sure I remember this. But whatever it is, I imagine telling it would be frowned upon.

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There does seem to be a weird "rooting for this" vibe going on.
Well, in fairness I don’t think people actually want this to be true. People want a change with dmb and boyd is the biggest problem in the band. Chiefly, he sucks, but he also appears not to give a shit. He’s just a cloud hanging over them. I would love to see an extremely talented violinist join the band and help drive them somewhere interesting.

I mean, christ. A founding member dies and the band ‘goes back to the van’ and tries to create something special honoring him. And what does this fucking guy do? He totally ghosts and spends all his time and effort making some shitty movie that no one wanted to see. Crystals and faces and hugs, oh my! Two tours ago he literally couldn’t even hold onto his instrument on stage while playing. He is a disaster.
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:00 PM   #10
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Shit. Not sure I remember this. But whatever it is, I imagine telling it would be frowned upon.



Well, in fairness I don’t think people actually want this to be true. People want a change with dmb and boyd is the biggest problem in the band. Chiefly, he sucks, but he also appears not to give a shit. He’s just a cloud hanging over them. I would love to see an extremely talented violinist join the band and help drive them somewhere interesting.

I mean, christ. A founding member dies and the band ‘goes back to the van’ and tries to create something special honoring him. And what does this fucking guy do? He totally ghosts and spends all his time and effort making some shitty movie that no one wanted to see. Crystals and faces and hugs, oh my! Two tours ago he literally couldn’t even hold onto his instrument on stage while playing. He is a disaster.
Seems like he had the support of at least Dave for that movie too, unless the music was something he was given permission to use that was already in the can....
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:46 AM   #11
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There does seem to be a weird "rooting for this" vibe going on.
I don’t think that’s true. I think we’ve all seen enough to know boyd isn’t right these days. The crystals, the hugs, the fact he seemingly has lost his musicianship and his drive. It’s quite sad to be honest.

I have no idea what happened with this crystal garden guy, and the truth may be somewhere in the middle, but it’s not hard to believe that something isn’t right there.
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:06 PM   #12
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What's that Lindsey Sterling up to?
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:35 PM   #13
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No way. This isn’t kids. It’s adult males. It might be news for like 4 hours. I doubt the mainstream world would ever even know of it or remember it after six months.
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Old 10-23-2017, 10:45 PM   #14
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No way. This isn’t kids. It’s adult males. It might be news for like 4 hours. I doubt the mainstream world would ever even know of it or remember it after six months.
Keyword: males, so nobody will really care. Even if he was creeping on females, so many are being outed right now that it would just get lost in the shuffle. Also, Boyd sucks at his instrument and none of the media seems to ever mention that, so I’m not sure why they’d care about these allegations.
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:40 PM   #15
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Also, if Boyd is being a creep with the Crystal Garden dudes why would Dave and the rest of the guys HAVE to know about it?
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:15 PM   #16
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It may not be a popular opinion on a dmb messageboard but if Boyd is, in fact, a predator then I am rooting for him to face some degree of justice. The fact that it's adults and male on male shouldn't keep this from being newsworthy. In fact, I would say it that is all the more reason that the story needs to be brought to the forefront because of how grossly underreported same sex, especially male, sex abuse is. It may not exactly fit the same narrative as other prevalent cases that have come out as of late but, if true, that is all the more reason for it to be newsworthy because it points out the vulnerability of any person under coercive control by way of imbalance in power dynamic. I agree that it does not mean that other people he worked with in any capacity have/had knowledge of his actions or intent but if they did then shame on them. I also agree with much of what Jack said.
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Is there anyone who doesn't want there to be justice if there's the need? I don't care who it is or who the victim is, predators and abusers need to get what's coming to them.
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Old 10-23-2017, 10:02 PM   #18
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Is there anyone who doesn't want there to be justice if there's the need? I don't care who it is or who the victim is, predators and abusers need to get what's coming to them.
For real.

Jesus christ people, keep it together. We don't need a five hundred white dissertation on your faux unpopular opinion that sex crimes shouldn't be covered up.

Tamby is the only one here who doesn't care about sex assault.
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:34 AM   #19
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For real.

Jesus christ people, keep it together. We don't need a five hundred white dissertation on your faux unpopular opinion that sex crimes shouldn't be covered up.

Tamby is the only one here who doesn't care about sex assault.
Virtue signaling is a real thing....not saying that is the case here but happens way too much
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:34 PM   #20
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I actually tried listening to some DMB stuff today and had a hard time just thinking that Boyd might be up to some weird shit. I for one hope this isn't true at all. In a selfish way I just wish it would go away and doesn't turn into an actual issue.
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