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Tim leave & Butch come back? 1 0.94%
Tim leave & Butch stay gone? 9 8.49%
Tim stay & Butch come back? 37 34.91%
Tim stay & Butch stay gone? 59 55.66%
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:26 PM   #101
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as long as he never took a solo.
I'd love to see a tour including Butch where every show you didn't know who was gonna take a solo on a Jimi or 41 or whatever, Tim or Butch or Jeff. It would keep things fresher and more interesting than ever.
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:27 PM   #102
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I'd love to see a tour including Butch where every show you didn't know who was gonna take a solo on a Jimi or 41 or whatever, Tim or Butch or Jeff. It would keep things fresher and more interesting than ever.
this is something i've wished they'd do for a long time
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:29 PM   #103
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this is something i've wished they'd do for a long time
it was interesting at the gorge in '02 when butch jumped in on Piano solo during #41..always dug that version for its uniqueness.
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he solo'd on a bunch of those '02 41's.
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:35 PM   #105
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8/27 being the best, imo.
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yeah great little sojourn in that one.
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:37 PM   #107
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he solo'd on a bunch of those '02 41's.
Oh, forgot about that actually, I wonder why they abandoned that idea completely after '02
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:39 PM   #108
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i like that 41 is their one song that you're never sure what you're going to get with it.
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:44 PM   #109
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i like that 41 is their one song that you're never sure what you're going to get with it.
That's not entirely true, on any given tour it's pretty predictable.
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:40 PM   #110
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They ran their course with Butch. It was clear they weren't going to get anything more out of him. With Tim it's a completely different story. Who know what's to come with him.
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:51 PM   #111
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I don't care what Butch does either way, but I want no part of Tim leaving.
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I literally would stop listening to DMB if Tim leaves. What he does is fascinating to the ears.
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:55 PM   #112
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I still wonder what would've happened if Butch stayed on in '08. I wonder if DMB would've still had the dramatic turn around that we saw
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:57 PM   #113
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They ran their course with Butch. It was clear they weren't going to get anything more out of him. With Tim it's a completely different story. Who know what's to come with him.
I never had a problem with Butch. That said, regardless of his presence, Tim takes the band to the next level.

Butch was incredible over the course of the 2000 tour, when he was still exploring ways to add to the music, without taking over in some respects.
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I still wonder what would've happened if Butch stayed on in '08. I wonder if DMB would've still had the dramatic turn around that we saw
I think so. I think Tim would have just made him a non-factor. And if he stayed around at first he would have left soon after. Butch saw the direction they were going, and it wasn't Time of the Season-esque.
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I never had a problem with Butch. That said, regardless of his presence, Tim takes the band to the next level.

Butch was incredible over the course of the 2000 tour, when he was still exploring ways to add to the music, without taking over in some respects.
I give Butch a lot of credit. I'm not crazy about his actual contributions, but I recognize the fact that for awhile he was the only one contributing ANYTHING and for that reason, it's possible that he kept the band intact for those dark years. So I respect him for that. With that said, they are now obviously much better.
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I give Butch a lot of credit. I'm not crazy about his actual contributions, but I recognize the fact that for awhile he was the only one contributing ANYTHING and for that reason, it's possible that he kept the band intact for those dark years. So I respect him for that. With that said, they are now obviously much better.
the turning point, for me, is when you start to come up with songs with a guy like Butch where the songs are nearly unplayable without him there (or a genius like Tim there to transpose everything).

With everyday, things started leaning that direction, although they certainly tried for a few shows to play without keys. With Stand Up, most of those songs would be ridiculous to play without keys or Tim. When the songs are already atrocious WITH that extra crutch. . . . .

Interestingly enough, with BW, they did the same thing, basically, with Tim. So many of those tunes would be empty or flat out boring without his presence.
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:15 PM   #117
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I kinda wish we saw the band with Tim AND Butch, but overall I am pleased he is gone and hope he stays gone.

Wonder what he is up to now and if anyone in the band still talks to him?
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:27 PM   #118
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i thought butch took a few yrs to really get in a groove
i think tim was much better in 98 then he has been the last few yrs
but then again the songs were better as a whole then too
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the turning point, for me, is when you start to come up with songs with a guy like Butch where the songs are nearly unplayable without him there (or a genius like Tim there to transpose everything).

With everyday, things started leaning that direction, although they certainly tried for a few shows to play without keys. With Stand Up, most of those songs would be ridiculous to play without keys or Tim. When the songs are already atrocious WITH that extra crutch. . . . .

Interestingly enough, with BW, they did the same thing, basically, with Tim. So many of those tunes would be empty or flat out boring without his presence.
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it kills me to see dave standing there not even strumming because everyone else is holding it together
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:01 PM   #120
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it kills me to see dave standing there not even strumming because everyone else is holding it together

i don't mind it AS MUCH, if the songs are good, and Tim's there. but i think we would all love for songs to start with dave writing the tune with some interesting acoustic parts.

it's piano ballads like Steady as We Go that are totally unnecessary
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