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Old 07-17-2009, 02:13 PM   #181
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:27 PM   #182
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Backspacer is out there. Someone leaked it
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:35 PM   #184
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Old 07-17-2009, 04:00 PM   #185
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Ugh I know. Shows at Great Woods last year were great, but still kicking myself for not going to Hartford too. Don't like missing them this year. Philly is just a little too far for me, plus I knew everyone would be after tix to those shows.
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:39 PM   #186
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:59 PM   #187
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the ufck thread would have been all over it first, just sayin'...
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:47 AM   #188
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The Fixer is online and streaming...

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Still not sure what to think yet, but it's a bit of a change for them.
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:25 AM   #189
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Still not sure what to think yet, but it's a bit of a change for them.
how so? i love it, and unless the band starts delving deeper into electronica than they did with You Are i don't think think they really have a formula to depart from. they play everything under the sun. this song has a lot of classic PJ elements but seems a bit more polished which i kind of dig.
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:41 AM   #190
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I like the song, and i am sotked for this album
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Old 07-20-2009, 12:02 PM   #191
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between this and got some i feel this album is going to be full of awesome hooks. it's good to see them embracing that, i remember reading about the making of vs. and eddie kept redoing songs to make them less catchy.
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Old 07-20-2009, 12:26 PM   #192
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how so? i love it, and unless the band starts delving deeper into electronica than they did with You Are i don't think think they really have a formula to depart from. they play everything under the sun. this song has a lot of classic PJ elements but seems a bit more polished which i kind of dig.
I don't know about that; their bread and butter is rock and roll. They push those boundaries hard, but they've maintained a pretty consistent sound throughout their career. I still love them, but they've never been as diverse in their sound as U2, R.E.M. or some others. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's not that far from I Am Mine to Given to Fly or Last Exit to Life Wasted.

I think it's okay, but the lyrics are pretty substandard. It's one of the poorer efforts I think Eddie has handed in (presuming these lyrics are by Vedder). It's polished and poppy and there's nothing wrong with that; I love alot of that music, but so far it hasn't struck me as a very good example of that kind of music. I liked the song they premiered on Conan quite a bit though; it was very powerful, tight and danceable in a way that alot of their raveups aren't. This one just isn't doing it for me as much. Additionally, I think Eddie's having alot more trouble these days with the loud rock songs.
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Old 07-20-2009, 12:49 PM   #193
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Additionally, I think Eddie's having alot more trouble these days with the loud rock songs.
trouble in what way?

also, you mentioned him mailing in the lyrics, but these lyrics to speed of sound are great:
Yesterdays, How quick they change,
Lost and long gone now
Itís hard to remember anything
moving at the speed of sound
Moving with the speed of sound

And yet Iím still holdiní tight
to this dream of distant light
In that, somehow I survive,
but this night has been a long one
Waiting on the word that never comes

Can I forgive a lie
Canít forget and live a lie
I could give it one more try

Why deny this, drive inside
just looking for some peace
Every time I get me some
it gets the best of me
Thereís not much left you see

And yet Iím still holdiní tight
to this dream of distant light
In that, somehow I survive,
but this night has been a long one
Waiting on the sun that never comes

A whisper in the dark
Is that you or just my thoughts
Wide awake and reachin' out

Itís gone so quiet now
Could it be held farther Ďround
Moviní faster than the speed of sound

i don't know man, they're at the top of their game.
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Old 07-20-2009, 12:59 PM   #194
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I like the Fixer more than Got Some. That Conan performance was rough. I miss the old Eddie lyrics about fucking god knows wut.
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Old 07-20-2009, 01:02 PM   #195
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I miss the old Eddie lyrics about fucking god knows wut.
he's married to a supermodel and has a daughter. he's the polar opposite of the man he was 10-15 years ago.
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Old 07-20-2009, 01:03 PM   #196
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he's married to a supermodel and has a daughter. he's the polar opposite of the man he was 10-15 years ago.

indeed. it's just what happens. lyrically I think he is more capable than any other songwriter we on here admire. At his best, he runs circles around Dave and Thom lyrically. IMO tho
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indeed. it's just what happens. lyrically I think he is more capable than any other songwriter we on here admire. At his best, he runs circles around Dave and Thom lyrically. IMO tho
he's easily the most consistent. i don't think he's necessarily better though. he's never written a lyrically bad song, which is pretty fucking impressive. but at the same time he's never written anything nearly as profound as the dreaming tree or spoon with the exception of MAYBE black. this isn't really a bad thing, as i know he will never let me down and has like 5 times more integrity than 95% of his peers dave included.
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Old 07-20-2009, 01:17 PM   #198
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he's easily the most consistent. i don't think he's necessarily better though. he's never written a lyrically bad song, which is pretty fucking impressive. but at the same time he's never written anything nearly as profound as the dreaming tree or spoon with the exception of MAYBE black. this isn't really a bad thing, as i know he will never let me down and has like 5 times more integrity than 95% of his peers dave included.

lol Immortality, Red Mosquito, Given To Fly and Tremor Christ all make The Dreaming Tree weep like a willow. And believe me I LOVE the dreaming tree and spoon. I'd take Eddie and Thom over Dave lyrically. But Dave really is a melodic genius, and his band makes more interesting music than PJ. It depends on what kind of style you like. Eddie and Thom are warped minds, Dave tells a nice tale.
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lol Immortality, Red Mosquito, Given To Fly and Tremor Christ all make The Dreaming Tree weep like a willow. And believe me I LOVE the dreaming tree and spoon. I'd take Eddie and Thom over Dave lyrically. But Dave really is a melodic genius, and his band makes more interesting music than PJ. It depends on what kind of style you like. Eddie and Thom are warped minds, Dave tells a nice tale.
i'll give you immortality and tremor christ, i forgot about those. i'd say they're on par. but are you smoking crack with red mosquito and given to fly? again not bad songs, but "if i had known then what i know now" is one of the most overused lines in popular music, and given to fly is just a solid song but nothing breathtaking in the lyrical department. i'd actually argue that dave is much more warped than ed as well, ed is just angry and drunk whereas you could make a solid argument that dave isn't above child molestation.
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i'll give you immortality and tremor christ, i forgot about those. i'd say they're on par. but are you smoking crack with red mosquito and given to fly? again not bad songs, but "if i had known then what i know now" is one of the most overused lines in popular music, and given to fly is just a solid song but nothing breathtaking in the lyrical department. i'd actually argue that dave is much more warped than ed as well, ed is just angry and drunk whereas you could make a solid argument that dave isn't above child molestation.
Dave never wanted to suffer for his art. So he compromised his music from time to time.
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