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Old 03-06-2019, 09:26 AM   #21
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Random one to toss out there:

Riverbend '08: Showed that they can have a significant change in the instrumentation and still sound okay.
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:34 AM   #22
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Random one to toss out there:

Riverbend '08: Showed that they can have a significant change in the instrumentation and still sound okay.


Not to mention, wasn't that the first Everyday fake into Halloween? They still had the ability to be super random.
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Old 03-06-2019, 10:10 AM   #23
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I still listen to it fairly regularly (side note: did we ever get a source besides the one with all songs on a single track?). You’re right, they came out and NAILED that performance. Similar to Central Park, you could tell how amped up they were to be there. One of the most energetic performances I can recall. And there was a buzz after it happened outside of the core fan base. I got a copy of the vhs from some random guy at work.
To think they (some of the band) didn't really even want to play Woodstock because it was right in the middle of their tour on a day off. So they had to fly out to do Woodstock and then fly back for a show the next day. But then to have such an eclectic crowd of 80-100k come to hear them was big for them at the time. Still enjoy listening to that show.
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Old 03-06-2019, 10:17 AM   #24
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I remember watching the Woodstock '99 set on Pay Per View (you know, the not legal way,) and that was what totally hooked me on the band. I'd listened to them before, but that show sucked me in completely.
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I remember watching the Woodstock '99 set on Pay Per View (you know, the not legal way,) and that was what totally hooked me on the band. I'd listened to them before, but that show sucked me in completely.
That was Farm Aid 97 for me. Watching that live totally hooked me. Had me searching online about them and finding out about Nancies, dmbta, and tape trading.

This is a spinoff, but would be cool to hear what show/performance that was for others. Not necessarily favorite or best but what show/performance got you hooked.
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Old 04-23-2019, 11:55 PM   #26
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I’ll throw a random oddball... mostly just having fun

8/23/2004. Just a normal summer evening in Albuquerque when Tim casually joined the band on stage for the first time in 6 years....... for Help Myself, Crash, Nancies and Too Much! It was a bizarre experience, and while he shredded nancies, they had played Crush early in the show which would have made way more sense. Also a single song warehouse encore...without tim.

The most memorable part was Roi walking across the stage and embracing tim heartily... noone else made much of a gesture.

Foreshadowed the possibility of 2008 i suppose.

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Old 04-24-2019, 07:00 AM   #27
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I remember being ubderwhelmed by Tim’s contributions in that 2004 show. Felt really minor overall. In 2008, his additions were immediately more noticeable.
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Old 04-24-2019, 12:22 PM   #28
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7/1/2008 is also up there - first show with Jeff.

I think you guys hit everything
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Old 04-24-2019, 01:08 PM   #29
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for some reason that MSG show w/James Brown (2002?) always seemed like a watershed moment to me...
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:52 AM   #30
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I remember being ubderwhelmed by Tim’s contributions in that 2004 show. Felt really minor overall. In 2008, his additions were immediately more noticeable.
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:19 PM   #31
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I believe that Vegas '07 is what convinced Roi not to quit the band after he essentially did just that in late '06.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:28 AM   #32
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I believe that Vegas '07 is what convinced Roi not to quit the band after he essentially did just that in late '06.

I’m aware of that situation but would be interested to hear more about it. How did they get him on board for just two more Vegas shows after quitting? Where in the timeline does all of this fall in regard to Roi’s convo with Dave about “somebody’s got to lead this band” ?
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Where in the timeline does all of this fall in regard to Roi’s convo with Dave about “somebody’s got to lead this band” ?
Off the top of my head, that conversation happened in Vegas, but I could be mis-remembering.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:05 AM   #34
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Not gonna lie, this took longer than I thought it would when I decided it was a good idea.

Here's a [Only registered users can see links.] with most of the shows mentioned in this thread. Let me know if I missed anything you're interested in.

03.24.93 Flood Zone
09.27.94 McIntire Ampitheatre (UTTAD Release Party)
09.28.94 Flood Zone (UTTAD Release Show)
05.19.95 Sam Boyd Stadium (opener for Grateful Dead)
05.20.95 Sam Boyd Stadium (opener for Grateful Dead)
07.11.97 Gorge
06.05.98 Foxboro Stadium
06.07.98 Giants Stadium
07.24.99 Woodstock
02.27.01 TRL
05.15.01 Blockbuster Desert Sky Pavilion
08.05.08 Riverbend
08.19.08 Staples Center
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Old 04-29-2019, 10:01 AM   #35
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Central Park was definitely important because that was when they really peaked as a band.
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Old 04-29-2019, 06:49 PM   #36
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I’d say listener supported, being their first released video of a concert.
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Yes. This and Woodstock 99 were my jam back in the day. Wore em both out.
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Old 04-29-2019, 09:42 PM   #38
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Central Park was definitely important because that was when they really peaked as a band.
I agree, I think the band has slowly declined since that show, with 2004 being the truly last "fantastic" year. No knock at all to post-05 DMB because there have been incredible years and tours since, but I don't think they've ever been as consistently amazing day in day out as they were from 95-04.

I think Central Park stands as kind of the pinnacle. For those that are into Phish, CP is DMB's Big Cypress, I see it that way. Everything was just different after that, and while there have been some absoltuely amazing stuff that's happened since, it was a clear cut change and just a moment where you just realize that they've reached the top and there's really no way to get higher or out-do themselves. It's either stay at the pinnacle by changing direction, or go downhill.

Perhaps this is partially why the band turned to Batson and the SU sessions and wanted to incorporate hip-hop influences. Totally guessing but there certainly could have been the thought of "well, what do we do now? What else do we have to prove? What direction should we go in? Then they tried something really different, it didn't work out very well, and I think they've been gripping at straws ever since to find their way. BW was a good move into new territory but then surprisingly they tried to go back to their roots for AFTW. Now CT is a totally different direction as well. I really think they've just kind of lost their way creatively. What really got DMB to super-stardom was that they didn't give a shit about what they were writing or what they were doing, they just did it.

Of course we don't know, but it seems Dave puts a lot more pressure on himself these days to try and "send a message" or "speak out for all of mankind" or write songs for his kids etc. instead of just letting it flow and enjoying the process.
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Old 04-30-2019, 08:10 PM   #39
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Yes. This and Woodstock 99 were my jam back in the day. Wore em both out.
Hell ya ...I couldn’t wait to get this in the mail, great audio...was there too so extra special....
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