Vinyl Release Discussion (Live At Red Rocks vinyl RSD '17)

[ThememanXX]

I'm sold on studio Granny alone! Wonder if Nancies and Jane are full-band acoustic.....that'd be even better.

[celluloid hero]

Get in Line was not finished in the studio according to Lillywhite.

[Mersh]

Wondering it is the same acoustic solo demo versions that have been floating around for years.

[Bluewater34]

Originally Posted by celluloid hero Get in Line was not finished in the studio according to Lillywhite.

Honestly, I'd take the roughed in track, but I'll also take the studio Granny. I wonder if those "acoustic" versions are just D&T versions. I doubt they recorded acoustic versions in the studio.

[drummerkrf]

Originally Posted by TheNoise Studio Granny plus acoustic Nancies and STJL, per this article who quotes a source. [Only registered users can see links.]

Granny! Nice.

Isn't this the guy that's on ants though? Chadizzy? Not as familiar with what his sources may be, might have a good track record with these things, not sure.

Would much rather here it officially from the band's site.

[celluloid hero]

Originally Posted by Bluewater34 Honestly, I'd take the roughed in track, but I'll also take the studio Granny. I wonder if those "acoustic" versions are just D&T versions. I doubt they recorded acoustic versions in the studio.

Of course you would take it. We all would take any snippet of anything we can get. But who knows if there's even a full rough cut of it.

[Bluewater34]

Not arguing with you. Just saying I'd take whatever there is.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by mario It's been awhile since I bought or played a CD, but 72 was the number that bubbled up from my memory

In order to conform to CD-DA standards max playing time is 79.8 minutes and 99 tracks, however you can usually overburn CD-Rs to around 81~82 minutes but risk not playing on all CD players.

Originally Posted by RageATL If this turns out to be a mere remaster, not sure I'll even bother. The original disc sounds excellent as it is and many remasters these days sound like anything but.

I agree, usually because remasters just mean "we cranked it and destroyed the dynamics in the process"...however I think they could still improve on the CD. I think UTTAD is the best of the RCA albums in terms of mastering but when you look at the PCM stereo audio from What Would You Say? on the DMB: The Videos 1994~2001 DVD it's got noticeably better dynamics than the CD release and more headroom...they could easily release a fully dynamic CD for us.

What Would You Say? (video version on top)

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The difference definitely becomes more apparent when you compare the more poorly mastered albums like BTCS and Everyday.

Don't Drink the Water (video version on top)

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I Did It (video version on top)

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(Click on the images after unspoilering them to see larger size.

Would love to have a CD release of BTCS mastered like DDTW was. Each video was mastered differently and some of the other tracks are equally as undynamic as their studio CD counterparts.

One thing is for sure, the stereo masters of the DMB albums have full dynamics and headroom and there is no excuse for handicapping them with loudness wars mastering. There's also no excuse for doing a CD > vinyl for UTTAD.

[Billie'sTV]

Originally Posted by Mersh Wondering it is the same acoustic solo demo versions that have been floating around for years.

My first thought. That track was very underwhelming.....

[ThememanXX]

Originally Posted by dobyblue I think UTTAD is the best of the RCA albums in terms of mastering but when you look at the PCM stereo audio from What Would You Say? on the DMB: The Videos 1994~2001 DVD it's got noticeably better dynamics than the CD release and more headroom...they could easily release a fully dynamic CD for us.

Never knew that....that's great info.

[TheNoise]

amazon link now updated with bonus track info

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13. Granny (unreleased studio track)
14. Dancing Nancies (Acoustic) (unreleased studio track)
15. The Song That Jane Likes (Acoustic) (unreleased studio track)

[TheNoise]

so yeah, i'll buy this even if it was just Granny. will definitely give them all my monies for this to show them i want more.. because you know, please keep doing this DMB.

[drummerkrf]

Originally Posted by TheNoise amazon link now updated with bonus track info [Only registered users can see links.] 13. Granny (unreleased studio track) 14. Dancing Nancies (Acoustic) (unreleased studio track) 15. The Song That Jane Likes (Acoustic) (unreleased studio track)

Amazon vinyl pre-order also up now, with same track listing:

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[blumathu]

Wonderful news! Really looking forward to hearing Granny. Keep on doing this DMB!!!

[ThememanXX]

so per Amazon, it's a 2LP.

[mario]

Seems pretty likely Granny is the only new song and STJL and Nancies will just be the same recordings that were released on the original promo for UtTaD: [Only registered users can see links.]

[mario]

Originally Posted by Bluewater34 Honestly, I'd take the roughed in track, but I'll also take the studio Granny. I wonder if those "acoustic" versions are just D&T versions. I doubt they recorded acoustic versions in the studio.

Originally Posted by celluloid hero Of course you would take it. We all would take any snippet of anything we can get. But who knows if there's even a full rough cut of it.

Originally Posted by Bluewater34 Not arguing with you. Just saying I'd take whatever there is.

Based on that same lillywhite interview, it's probably just Dave, Tim, Carter, and Stefan.

[ThememanXX]

Originally Posted by mario Based on that same lillywhite interview, it's probably just Dave, Tim, Carter, and Stefan.

That's how they play it live, too. Wouldn't be surprised.

[mario]

Originally Posted by mario Seems pretty likely Granny is the only new song and STJL and Nancies will just be the same recordings that were released on the original promo for UtTaD: [Only registered users can see links.]

Dug a little deeper.

A post on weekly Davespeak six years ago says the STJL was from the June 1991 Rutabaga Studio Sessions we all have (the one with After Her on it) and the Nancies is from 1991 Quad Studio sessions that I think is also traded.

[ThememanXX]

Originally Posted by mario Seems pretty likely Granny is the only new song and STJL and Nancies will just be the same recordings that were released on the original promo for UtTaD: [Only registered users can see links.] A post on weekly Davespeak six years ago says the STJL was from the June 1991 Rutabaga Studio Sessions we all have (the one with After Her on it) and the Nancies is from 1991 Quad Studio sessions that I think is also traded.

So wait, these were previously released? Interesting. I know we have the Rutabaga and Quad demos (albeit in less-than-stellar quality,) but didn't know those tracks were put on a CD back in the day. Cool.