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Old 05-20-2012, 06:09 PM   #201
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I wonder if he knows they turn him down/off? Or if anyone in the band notices for that matter?

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i'm sure the rest of the band knows, but i doubt boyd knows.
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:25 PM   #202
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Clearly the only answer here is to organize the long needed 'What The Fuck, Boyd?' campaign. At every show, just have someone with a 'What The Fuck, Boyd?' sign stage right. It'd get noticed.
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What's this about 'extended delay?' Hardened boarders know TDC was only down for two days: the day it went down, and the day it went back up.
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:33 PM   #203
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huge posters of tablature for his parts
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:10 PM   #204
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you know, he's lucky. I'm sure 60% of the crowd doesn't realize what's happening with him. The band and music is so loud these days I'm sure they don't understand.
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:14 PM   #205
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you know, he's lucky. I'm sure 60% of the crowd doesn't realize what's happening with him. The band and music is so loud these days I'm sure they don't understand.
60%? I'd say 95%....
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:23 PM   #206
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This is funny, but almost as bad as sitting front row and giving the band the finger? I mean in the end you are a fan, but you aren't the only one at the show, and most of the people there are either too drunk or high to know that Boyd isn't bringing his A game every night.
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:26 PM   #207
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that is incredibly shitty...im sure that sign didnt last long
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:28 PM   #208
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that's not photoshop?s
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:31 PM   #209
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of course it's photoshopped... people honestly are thinking that's a real sign?
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:33 PM   #210
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that's not photoshop?s
i think it is, the writing definitely looks like a font and both Ts and Hs look identical.
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:55 PM   #211
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This thread makes me sad, but Jesus Christ - I listened to IIHIA from last night and Boyd was non-existent. All he basically needs to do in that one is hold 1 note in the background but he can't even do that anymore, apparently.
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:57 PM   #212
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i think it is, the writing definitely looks like a font and both Ts and Hs look identical.
Marker felt bold.

I was intending for a funny image -- didn't think anyone would think it was real.

Might need to give photoshop a rest for a while.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:07 PM   #213
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that is incredibly shitty...im sure that sign didnt last long
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:09 PM   #214
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Damn you, photoshop!
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:31 PM   #215
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Well, this thread took off.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:39 PM   #216
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Dave has always been idiosyncratic and strange, and for every brilliant improvised lyric there are 20 awful ones. I think nowadays he has much better stage presence and his voice the last few years has been fantastic compared to earlier tours. Your points are all valid, and he could certainly try harder if he wanted to, but that's true of all of them to a greater or lesser extent. Jeff could try and do random fills in Digging A Ditch. Rashawn could learn piano. Whatever.

My point is: Dave isn't perfect. Boyd is a disaster. There's a pretty clear goddamn difference, regardless of any reasons behind the situation, and you're just being an ass if you pretend not to agree.
This; I'd have to believe that anyone trying to come close to equating the two is willfully being ignorant to make a point. You'd have to be borderline tone-deaf to pick any number of Boyd's greatest hits not to know there is a problem.

As for Roi, I'm of course sympathetic about it, but if I lost a close friend, and four years later I still wasn't doing my job, I'd expect to be called on it.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:41 PM   #217
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As for Roi, I'm of course sympathetic about it, but if I lost a close friend, and four years later I still wasn't doing my job, I'd expect to be called on it.
yeah, this.

they all loved roi, but they've moved on with their lives. boyd either needs to just get his shit together over it or talk to someone.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:49 PM   #218
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These discussions are interesting for the fact that they come up every year and the same thing is said; "for the last few years Boyd has been terrible, he should go". He's had problems since 1998. There were hints in '97. So this isn't anything new. Yeah, we all get that he should be better, have gotten better, whatever, but it's not like this is some revelation. DMB is a horn-heavy band now anyway so the large focus on Boyd's contributions have dwindled dramatically over the last 4 years.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:50 PM   #219
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These discussions are interesting for the fact that they come up every year and the same thing is said; "for the last few years Boyd has been terrible, he should go". He's had problems since 1998. There were hints in '97. So this isn't anything new. Yeah, we all get that he should be better, have gotten better, whatever, but it's not like this is some revelation. DMB is a horn-heavy band now anyway so the large focus on Boyd's contributions have dwindled dramatically over the last 4 years.
while the boyd bashing has been going on since he really shit the bed in '98, i feel like actually wishing for him to leave has been a fairly new thing. post roi's death actually when people realized they could still listen to the band sans an original member.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:52 PM   #220
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I don't remember Boyd being muted or turned down until the last couple years though. I could be wrong though.
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