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Old 07-31-2018, 11:58 AM   #721
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i've never owned a car (filthy new yorker who hasnt ever had a need for one) but I have to admit the Model 3 makes me really wish i had a reason to get one.
Yeah, if I lived in Boston or NYC, I wouldn't drive either. Glad you like the car though.
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:07 PM   #722
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i've never owned a car (filthy new yorker who hasnt ever had a need for one) but I have to admit the Model 3 makes me really wish i had a reason to get one.
Tesla might be my next car. My most recent car was stolen this past February and I've been borrowing a family member's extra car since then. I'm not sure which model Tesla I would buy yet though. Still debating this one.
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:18 PM   #723
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Whether in the Model S, 3, X - you get the Tesla grin!

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Old 07-31-2018, 02:21 PM   #724
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Tesla might be my next car. My most recent car was stolen this past February and I've been borrowing a family member's extra car since then. I'm not sure which model Tesla I would buy yet though. Still debating this one.
Don't know if you are looking for a used one, but for anyone who wants to get an older Model S, I'm seeing some from $38-41k on this FB group - Teslas For Sale By Owner

Remember: high mileage is not such a big factor compared to buying a used ICE car.

Edit: There's a used 2013 Model S60 that just got slashed to $37.5k
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:18 PM   #725
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Don't know if you are looking for a used one, but for anyone who wants to get an older Model S, I'm seeing some from $38-41k on this FB group - Teslas For Sale By Owner

Remember: high mileage is not such a big factor compared to buying a used ICE car.

Edit: There's a used 2013 Model S60 that just got slashed to $37.5k
Man I wish car ownership wasn't a ridiculous debacle / waste of money in the city. I've gotten to drive a Tesla a few times and goddamn I loved it. My only wish would be a manual transmission since thats how I learned how to drive but I totally get why that doesn't exist. Nothing like really feeling the car when you drive a tight manual vehicle.

When my grandfather passed years ago I refused to let them sell his car (he loved it and babied it until his last days on this planet) and I have had it up in storage upstate ever since. Fortunately one of my dads childhood friends is a car nut and restores old muscle cars so I don't have to pay for it to be in in a climate controlled warehouse type place but there is just nothing but downsides to having one when you live in Manhattan. Between the high insurance, parking bullshit, traffic ruining any fun that can be had, asshole drivers.... just no.
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:43 PM   #726
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Man I wish car ownership wasn't a ridiculous debacle / waste of money in the city. I've gotten to drive a Tesla a few times and goddamn I loved it. My only wish would be a manual transmission since thats how I learned how to drive but I totally get why that doesn't exist. Nothing like really feeling the car when you drive a tight manual vehicle.

When my grandfather passed years ago I refused to let them sell his car (he loved it and babied it until his last days on this planet) and I have had it up in storage upstate ever since. Fortunately one of my dads childhood friends is a car nut and restores old muscle cars so I don't have to pay for it to be in in a climate controlled warehouse type place but there is just nothing but downsides to having one when you live in Manhattan. Between the high insurance, parking bullshit, traffic ruining any fun that can be had, asshole drivers.... just no.
Well, eventually most city driving will be autonomous EV and "human driving" will be done for fun on off roads. Check out this report on Peak Car Ownership from RMI:

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But carmakers that provide mobility services and autonomous vehicles could reap substantial profit since our current system costs around $0.80 per mile, and mature electric automated mobility service could cost only $0.30 per mile. That difference of $0.50 per mile equates to over $1 trillion in total savings that will be split between society, consumers, and the mobility service providers of the future.
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Old 07-31-2018, 04:19 PM   #727
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Well, eventually most city driving will be autonomous EV and "human driving" will be done for fun on off roads. Check out this report on Peak Car Ownership from RMI:

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I eagerly await our minority report style vehicles in cities.
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Don't know if you are looking for a used one, but for anyone who wants to get an older Model S, I'm seeing some from $38-41k on this FB group - Teslas For Sale By Owner

Remember: high mileage is not such a big factor compared to buying a used ICE car.

Edit: There's a used 2013 Model S60 that just got slashed to $37.5k


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thanks. Can we talk via PM?
Welcome! Sure thing. I await your message.
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When I heard his last statement:

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Old 08-15-2018, 06:31 PM   #732
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Tesla is a little behind when they thought they would have full autonomy ready, but this article shows they are still ahead of the competition. If they are beat to the market, it's only because others have geo-fenced certain cities to use their autonomy technology - Tesla is going for a full blown, no tricks up their sleeves approach.

Elon stated this in the most recent Q2 investors call and adds color to what they are doing:

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Tesla has developed an autonomous chip that is at least 3 years ahead of any other automotive manufacturer. Musk explained, "whereas the current Nvidia hardware can do 200 frames a second, this is able to do over 2,000 frames a second and with full redundancy and fail-over.” Tesla is currently using an Nvidia chip with 12 teraflops of performance. A tenfold improvement would suggest Tesla’s chip has roughly 120 teraflops of performance. Nvidia’s Xavier chip, which is currently sampling and likely won’t be installed into vehicles until late 2019, has roughly 30 teraflops of performance. In other words, traditional automakers have committed to a chip with inferior specs, and will likely have to wait for Nvidia’s next autonomous product before they can have a processing system comparable to the system Tesla is testing today.​

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Two great videos with Elon, one interview, the other the factory. I actually got to take a tour of the factory back in 2014, when it was much less busy, and it was amazing even back then.

If you have any questions on what you've seen in the media about Tesla going private, let me know because I keep up with the company on a daily basis. I'm not only a huge fan, and soon-to-be owner, but an investor since 2012. 99% of what is written is wrong and it's just to push the stock price down.

It's a good thing Tesla is trying to go private, as it will let the company focus on extreme growth and not what Wall Street deems is necessary.



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