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[rev fig]

Originally Posted by typsitch Ah, right, I forgot you're a rehabilitated republican.

I ran for a local party seat. Took my pregnant wife to the convention when the election was held. Someone there thanked my wife for not having a Muslim baby.

[mario]

Originally Posted by rev fig I ran for a local party seat. Took my pregnant wife to the convention when the election was held. Someone there thanked my wife for not having a Muslim baby.

How did they know, though? That's the creepiest part...

[mario]

Originally Posted by typsitch There's some kind of ethereal sweet nectar relating to someone so fucking up his own ass that he doesn't realize he's been the king of ad hominem attacks and then accuses others of it. It's the richest fucking nectar there is.

Well, go ahead and add "ad hominem" to "libertarian" on your list of Words I Should Learn the Meaning Of.


See, when I describe you as a hateful little transphobic yellow-eyed white nationalist, only "little" and "yellow-eyed" are ad hominem attacks.


Hateful, Transphobic, and White Nationalist are all apt descriptors of your postings here.

[beitsaad]

Furthermore typ, there are way more things to be annoyed with, like what this government is actually doing, than what stupid united is doing.

[mario]

I hope most people saw this yesterday, but Republicans are still using the same bullshit Trump used to steal from their donors, too.





There's something very much worth being outraged about.

[zaphod!]

Originally Posted by beitsaad Furthermore typ, there are way more things to be annoyed with, like what this government is actually doing, than what stupid united is doing.

see, this is how i know that the biden admin isn't doing too badly if the reactionary right-wing outrage machine is distracting their audience with all these stupid stories

[mario]

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[beitsaad]

Originally Posted by zaphod! see, this is how i know that the biden admin isn't doing too badly if the reactionary right-wing outrage machine is distracting their audience with all these stupid stories

Well, they are stupid and think the base really cares about these 'woke' things. I have friends like typ all worked up over dr. suess and shit like that, which I don't really care about. It really doesn't impact me, is that selfish thinking, sure is but it's my thinking.

Do I think these woke cancel culture bullshit things are changing America? America's been changing ever since there has been an America. People advance and move forward socially, it's what happens. It happens everywhere on the globe, who am I to say my thought process is the right one? by the way, it is...ha

Political parties have to rally around something, the Dems rallied around their hatred for orange outsider man who spoke bluntly and the Republicans are rallying around 'wokeness' (for lack of a better term) and I personally think it's the wrong thing to rally around, but their 1 to 2 media outlets have to get worked up about something to get headlines in the 'edited' social media world, and this unfortunately is what they picked.

[DIDO36]

Originally Posted by beitsaad Well, they are stupid and think the base really cares about these 'woke' things. I have friends like typ all worked up over dr. suess and shit like that, which I don't really care about. It really doesn't impact me, is that selfish thinking, sure is but it's my thinking. Do I think these woke cancel culture bullshit things are changing America? America's been changing ever since there has been an America. People advance and move forward socially, it's what happens. It happens everywhere on the globe, who am I to say my thought process is the right one? by the way, it is...ha Political parties have to rally around something, the Dems rallied around their hatred for orange outsider man who spoke bluntly and the Republicans are rallying around 'wokeness' (for lack of a better term) and I personally think it's the wrong thing to rally around, but their 1 to 2 media outlets have to get worked up about something to get headlines in the 'edited' social media world, and this unfortunately is what they picked.

I find it incredibly stupid when something like moving the All Star game out of Atlanta happens. It does nothing, except hurt the economy of a city with a large black population. Makes a lot of sense.

[mario]

Originally Posted by DIDO36 I find it incredibly stupid when something like moving the All Star game out of Atlanta happens. It does nothing, except hurt the economy of a city with a large black population. Makes a lot of sense.

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[typsitch]

Originally Posted by beitsaad Furthermore typ, there are way more things to be annoyed with, like what this government is actually doing, than what stupid united is doing.

Are there, really? This is a boomer "free market" conservative take. The "free market" that's in lock-step with leftist politics. Government and corporate America are intertwined, and the Government policy arrives downstream of the culture that's partially molded by the corporations we interact with on a daily basis.

But I guess as long your taxes stay low and "limited government", right?! That's all that matters to a real conservative.

If you really want conservative Government policy you'd realize that some preservation of a moderate culture must be had. Yes, I said "moderate", not "conservative". Just, you know, a culture that thinks we still live in a meritocracy and doesn't drown itself in identity politics.

You lose the culture, you'll lose the policy. So don't be glib about far-left "policy" enforced at the corporate level. There's actual consequences at stake. Have a backbone.

[beitsaad]

Originally Posted by DIDO36 I find it incredibly stupid when something like moving the All Star game out of Atlanta happens.

I think it's stupid too.

Originally Posted by mario [Only registered users can see links.]

That was a bit different, but you know that.

[typsitch]

Originally Posted by DIDO36 I find it incredibly stupid when something like moving the All Star game out of Atlanta happens. It does nothing, except hurt the economy of a city with a large black population. Makes a lot of sense.

Don't worry, others here have pointed out that the culture war is "stupid" and should be ignored. Never mind the President encouraging private business to stick their fingers into culture war. Nothing to see here.

[DMBCLSTJ]

I honestly haven't read the new law in detail, but can anyone educate me on how it's discrimnitory? Are there any excerpts that you can post here. I'm genuinely curious.

[typsitch]

Originally Posted by beitsaad Do I think these woke cancel culture bullshit things are changing America? America's been changing ever since there has been an America. People advance and move forward socially, it's what happens. It happens everywhere on the globe, who am I to say my thought process is the right one? by the way, it is...ha

Ah, yes, the never-ending, inevitable progressivism of society.

Definitely puberty blockers for kids and diversity quotas are just the next logical step in this unstoppable train of progress!

[beitsaad]

Originally Posted by typsitch Are there, really? This is a boomer "free market" conservative take. The "free market" that's in lock-step with leftist politics. Government and corporate America are intertwined, and the Government policy arrives downstream of the culture that's partially molded by the corporations we interact with on a daily basis.

Yes there really are more important things to be annoyed with. You need some help if you cannot look beyond the 'outrage' over Dr. Suess and United...I don't interact with United on a daily basis, so fail to see your logic there. But i'm the one that needs to have a backbone.....

[DIDO36]

Originally Posted by beitsaad Yes there really are more important things to be annoyed with. You need some help if you cannot look beyond the 'outrage' over Dr. Suess and United...I don't interact with United on a daily basis, so fail to see your logic there. But i'm the one that needs to have a backbone.....

I mean we are posting on an irrelevant 90s band message board. I think it’s safe to say we all need some help

[beitsaad]

Originally Posted by typsitch Ah, yes, the never-ending, inevitable progressivism of society. Definitely puberty blockers for kids and diversity quotas are just the next logical step in this unstoppable train of progress!

Come on, it's a fact America is different today than it was 20 years ago and then 20 years before that.

Additionally, don't ever lump in puberty blockers for kids with diversity quotas again, that's a dumb fucking thing to do. But again, you must have failed to read one of my posts from earlier, there have been diversity quotas in private businesses for 40+ years, why the outrage for it today?

[typsitch]

Honest question. Can you be concerned and call something out without being "outraged"? Can you have a fucking imagination, see patterns, and look past the next hour and not be "outraged"?

I guess if you don't just go with the "aw shucks" Goofy gif response you're "outraged".

[typsitch]

Originally Posted by beitsaad But again, you must have failed to read one of my posts from earlier, there have been diversity quotas in private businesses for 40+ years, why the outrage for it today?

Because it's a fucking commercial airline company.