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Old 04-02-2021, 10:35 AM   #28021
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Isn't YNK also in the running for being one of their most complex songs?
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Old 04-02-2021, 10:50 AM   #28022
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Isn't YNK also in the running for being one of their most complex songs?
Definitely. That song has 5 different sections, and the structure goes:

ABCABCBCDE(B)(C)DE(B)

...with the ones in parentheses being shorter (one repeat instead of 4) and the final E also containing a jam. Still doesn't have the complete randomness of Last Stop's transitions and variations, nor the structure Last Stop has where each component is built up of a bunch of other pieces that themselves vary, but that's certainly a structure you don't see often!

YNK gets a lot of complexity too from the fact that the B section is in a very weird time signature (3 measures of 5/4 and one of 6/4) and the A section has some fantastic polyrhythms and syncopation. The complexity of Last Stop is carried in the choice of key signature and the structural intricacy; the parts all follow in lockstep and the beat is straight quarters. Carter's part to YNK is much more fascinating.
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:08 AM   #28023
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By unique, I was referring more to their sound than song structure but that’s a good point
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:15 AM   #28024
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Just listened to the Philly 98 version reading this breakdown. So So good. just unreal song structure and they totally nail it. Wow.
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:24 AM   #28025
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Is The Last Stop DMB's most unique song?
It’s spelled “Warehouse.”

Figured this would peak Thrawn’s interest. There are a lot of “most unique” tunes we could talk about (regardless of opinion of the song itself):

Last Stop
Stone
Warehouse
YNK
STDH
Minarets
DIDO

In no order and in no way a complete list. OSW and Saybye could’ve been a lot more standard fare with any other drummer, for instance. A guitarist playing only power chords on Billies’ verse would’ve been far more boring. Dreaming Tree would still be a great song, but Fonz really felt that one perfectly. JTR does its best to employ every available pitch on the spectrum. The list goes on, of course.

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Old 04-02-2021, 02:35 PM   #28026
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Just listened to the Philly 98 version reading this breakdown. So So good. just unreal song structure and they totally nail it. Wow.
It's funny to hear how many versions over the years have small screw ups... moments where Dave holds the F# one bar two long amidst one of the transitions, or (obviously) how many times the ending transition has been screwed up. I'm not the only one having trouble figuring out how this works!
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Old 04-02-2021, 02:41 PM   #28027
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It's funny to hear how many versions over the years have small screw ups... moments where Dave holds the F# one bar two long amidst one of the transitions, or (obviously) how many times the ending transition has been screwed up. I'm not the only one having trouble figuring out how this works!
The thing i dont get is how they screw up the outro so many times. Im not saying the song is easy to play, but that feels like the easy part once they got there, just hit the next part you literally can wait until youre ready.

Its also extremely interesting to me they never seem to play the outro the same in the different years they played it. In 98, it transitions with a bang, in 2003 its a bit more of a tension build, in 2006 it was a horn part then a softer transition, in 2010 it was a wave that built and they start playing the second part over the build up, and so on. I prefer 98 the best, but thats just me.

Jeff Coffin also said this was his hardest song to learn when learning the DMB catalogue.
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Old 04-02-2021, 03:06 PM   #28028
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I would love to watch Carter come up with the drum parts for songs like YNK. How in the world does anyone think of that rhythm to play, and throw all the small stuff he does on top of it.

Literally insane. That's a song I'll never be able to get the drums down on.

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Old 04-02-2021, 03:48 PM   #28029
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Old 04-02-2021, 04:01 PM   #28030
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I wonder how Boyd is doing? I'm sure he didn't stop by in a hazmat suit to Haunted Hollow and lay down some phat violin riffs.
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Old 04-02-2021, 04:12 PM   #28031
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I wonder how Boyd is doing? I'm sure he didn't stop by in a hazmat suit to Haunted Hollow and lay down some phat violin riffs.
As horrible as he was, his sound was synonymous with the band.
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Old 04-02-2021, 10:42 PM   #28032
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Would totally welcome a clean put together Boyd back. Miss his sound a lot.
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Old 04-02-2021, 10:53 PM   #28033
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Ok question for the tapers...or anyone else...

If you have one long audio file, a full concert or an album for example, which has not been split into tracks, is there a program where you can input your single file and set the times when each track should start and end and it will split it into individual files?

I know you can accomplish this with settings in iTunes just by going into the song info for the full clip and choosing start and end times, but I think you would have to load the file in and do the entire process manually for each track. Seems like there has to be an easier way?
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Old 04-02-2021, 10:56 PM   #28034
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Lord Huron has been doing these online performances and I have the audio of each of them but each performance is just one big audio file. I want to track it.

I don't feel like I'm explaining myself well
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Old 04-03-2021, 03:21 AM   #28035
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Ok question for the tapers...or anyone else...

If you have one long audio file, a full concert or an album for example, which has not been split into tracks, is there a program where you can input your single file and set the times when each track should start and end and it will split it into individual files?

I know you can accomplish this with settings in iTunes just by going into the song info for the full clip and choosing start and end times, but I think you would have to load the file in and do the entire process manually for each track. Seems like there has to be an easier way?

Audacity is what I use to split tracks.


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Old 04-03-2021, 08:09 AM   #28036
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Ok question for the tapers...or anyone else...

If you have one long audio file, a full concert or an album for example, which has not been split into tracks, is there a program where you can input your single file and set the times when each track should start and end and it will split it into individual files?

I know you can accomplish this with settings in iTunes just by going into the song info for the full clip and choosing start and end times, but I think you would have to load the file in and do the entire process manually for each track. Seems like there has to be an easier way?
Audacity is free and can do it.
Takes a minute to figure it out but off the top of my head...
Place the play line at the very beginning of the track and then everywhere you want to cut the track (zoom in for more exact placement)
Hold down control and hit B. Be sure to put on at the very beginning
Go up to file and “export all”

I still have not figured out how to get it to save the tracks without a “-“ in the name with track number, for example...
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I have to manually remove those t-01 lines
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Old 04-03-2021, 12:17 PM   #28037
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Just listened to the Philly 98 version reading this breakdown. So So good. just unreal song structure and they totally nail it. Wow.
Except how Dave completely blows the opening lyrics
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Old 04-03-2021, 12:36 PM   #28038
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Audacity is free and can do it.
Takes a minute to figure it out but off the top of my head...
Place the play line at the very beginning of the track and then everywhere you want to cut the track (zoom in for more exact placement)
Hold down control and hit B. Be sure to put on at the very beginning
Go up to file and “export all”

I still have not figured out how to get it to save the tracks without a “-“ in the name with track number, for example...
dmb2021-04-03.t-01
I have to manually remove those t-01 lines
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I have heard of audacity but haven't played with it. So thank you for the brief tutorial as well.
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Old 04-03-2021, 02:42 PM   #28039
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Except how Dave completely blows the opening lyrics
yes yes except that.
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Old 04-03-2021, 02:44 PM   #28040
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