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Old 04-30-2018, 06:09 PM   #81
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listened, incredible part two. Matt and Steve go song by song breaking down the album. Matt does a tremendous job approaching this interview. He asks about all the little nuances of the album the same way any of us would if we were talking to Steve. You have to listen.
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Old 04-30-2018, 06:25 PM   #82
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a few tidbits as I remember them:

-Steve thought he mixed Alanis a bit too low in Don't Drink The Water and commented how he thought this track was maybe a bit too slow. Bela also got some props for his banjo playing.

-Interesting discussion on Last Stop. Steve felt the band could have done several more of these Middle Eastern sounding tunes if they had really wanted to. But he mentions how he thought Dave might have been oversinging on this one, etc.

-He had some great insight about Roi - how he loved being in the studio and his recording process. He would jam and Steve would find and piece together his solos. They talked about his Rapunzel solo and also how Steve found the hook Roi plays in Stay.

-On that same topic, he had good insight on Boyd and even asked Matt if Boyd was really leaving the band. Nothing we haven't heard before but Steve says how BT would be terrible for 9 takes, do something really amazing on the 10th and then would be terrible again on the 11th. He goes into further detail about how he was the only producer who could get the best out of him....He talks about how BT was not sharp or well versed in musicanspeak and how BT would get intimidated and panic when he was expected to know these things, etc.

-Steve agreed that Stay was maybe 30-60 seconds too long and was perhaps a necessary part of the album but also a questionable track. He talks about how jarring the Lovely Ladies were...also some good info on the little Dave/Roi call and response with the "clouds rolled over our heads and it began to rain" *Roi lick* part

-Dave hit Halloween in one or two takes.

-Steve had some problems with Pig. He mentions how it wasn't his favorite Dave lyric and how the song was a bit too "jammy."

-Steve mentioned how with this album he worked on it in chunks of 2-3 songs.

-Steve talks about how he made Carter's drum come to that beautiful flushed out hit during the last chorus of The Stone, the "I was just wondering" part that you really have to listen for. Apparently Carter kept playing through but Steve took that part and edited it so it made that effect.

-Stefan gets massive props from Lillywhite as being one of the best bassists he's worked with or heard.
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Old 04-30-2018, 07:44 PM   #83
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Didn’t quite get what I wanted out of part 2, but still a really awesome interview. The best parts to me and most interesting is where he talk about Boyd and Roi in the studio.

Especially Boyd, really explains a lot. Seems like he hated the studio and all other producers viewed him as a shitty musician so just left him out of the process instead of working with him and trying to build him up and make him comfortable—could be why he left the band, maybe things went really rough in the recent studio sessions. Those kind of statements prove why Lillywhite is the best producer for this band. His approach is best tailored to DMB.

I think AFTWs biggest problem was the songwriting which Steve nailed right on the head that Dave’s songwriting is more “matter of fact” and not as “dreamy”. Because musically and sonically AFTW sounds like DMB but the writing was not up to par.
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Old 04-30-2018, 07:47 PM   #84
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Love how he said that he takes the bands insecurities and weak spots and works on them instead of just focusing on Dave so much, explains so much why a lot of the other albums lack that “DMB sound” so much.
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Old 04-30-2018, 08:25 PM   #85
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Didn’t quite get what I wanted out of part 2,
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Old 04-30-2018, 08:54 PM   #86
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I thought it was funny at the end where Steve talks about abandoning his LA storage locker because he didn't care to spend $250 per month and didn't really care about anything in it. He said he got his son to get his Grammy awards and that's it.

So he said one day on Storage Wars you may see all his old tapes being found and one of them is from BTCS with machead on it.
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Old 04-30-2018, 08:56 PM   #87
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Also, it needs to be yelled from the rooftops: THANK YOU MATT for making this happen. Froggin BTCS porn at its finest. So good.
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Old 04-30-2018, 09:08 PM   #88
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Steve just didn’t remember a whole lot and the interviewer didn’t allow him to veer off course that much but when he did that was when the best info came out imo. I understand it was about the album but I’m much more interested in the behind the scenes relationships and all that debacle. Don’t get me wrong loved the interview and lots of great info, just not as much “new” stuff we didn’t know for 90+ minutes.
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Old 04-30-2018, 09:58 PM   #89
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It’s disappointing that he didn’t love Pig and found it too jammy. It’s arguably my favourite DMB song/studio performance.
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Old 04-30-2018, 09:59 PM   #90
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Anyone else find it disappointing that he didn’t love Pig and found it too jammy? It’s arguably my favourite DMB song/studio performance.
I feel the same way. Was very surprised he felt that Pig was the weakest track.

Pig and Spoon are my favorite DMB studio tracks.
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Old 04-30-2018, 10:31 PM   #91
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The bass on Dreaming Tree is incredible. Stefan's finest work.

That bass line + Chapman stick parts are for sure tasty but to me his finest work (or at least very high on the list for me) is on The Stone...melodic, heavy/dark and at times, downright menacing.
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Old 04-30-2018, 10:35 PM   #92
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Lillywhite interview about BTCS anniversary

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It works so well going into pig too. Coming out of the heavy DT, pig is this airy ‘seize the day’ tune. Things may not be what they were, but you still have blood pumping through your veins. When you’re a kid you really live for the day, but when we get older we tend to push everything to tomorrow. Everyone needs a reminder to get out and live more, and love more.



“Look, here are we

On this starry night staring into space

And I must say

I feel as small as dust

Lying down here“

I always recall him reading through this section of lyrics on the "Ultrasound" documentary and thinking how cringeworthy they were at the time (and to me, still are) which is funny cuz he says he keeps lyrics only after he doesn't make a face while reviewing them. While I rather enjoy the song overall, the lyrics always just seemed hokey and kinda forced to me.
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Really enjoyed part 2. Nice insight into all band members.
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Old 05-01-2018, 12:22 AM   #94
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I think AFTWs biggest problem was the songwriting which Steve nailed right on the head that Dave’s songwriting is more “matter of fact” and not as “dreamy”. Because musically and sonically AFTW sounds like DMB but the writing was not up to par.
Yup. Dave's songwriting is without question the weakest part of the band right now. Bigger than Boyd's issues, bigger than the musical director taking over. Abstract Dave needs to come back. Clever lyricist Dave needs to come back. Unfortunately it won't be on this next album.
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I think AFTWs biggest problem was the songwriting which Steve nailed right on the head that Dave’s songwriting is more “matter of fact” and not as “dreamy”. Because musically and sonically AFTW sounds like DMB but the writing was not up to par.
Maybe that's why he doesn't like Pig as much?
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Maybe that's why he doesn't like Pig as much?
Yeah probably I mean the message of the song is kind of cliche and cheeky, (unlike Dreaming Tree which is much deeper in meaning and imagery) but I personally always loved Pig and really liked the lyrics of Pig A LOT. Totally disagree with Steve on that one. Even though Pig is kind of “matter of fact” it’s nowhere near the straightforwardness of something like Gaucho or Mercy or a lot of newer tunes. There’s still a lot of imagery in Pig, but the message is certainly somewhat “trite”.
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Didn’t quite get what I wanted out of part 2
Geez...what were you looking for?
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Old 05-01-2018, 05:47 AM   #98
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This is awesome- great way to start the day....again thanks a lot for making this happen, now a part of BTCS history....
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As good as that was (and it was), I am chomping at the bit for the LWS interview.

Also, I found it weird that in almost 3 hours, he doesn’t mention AFTW once. This interview kept making me want DMB to work with Steve again, until I remembered that they did, and it was nothing too special.
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Watched the BTCS Ultrasound again last night. Such a great video and insight into the band in the studio at that time.

Crazy thinking about those studio sessions and what we are debating right now in the new album thread.
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