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Old 06-13-2013, 05:34 PM   #1141
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Yea, the first two were definitely better, but this last one was still entertaining.
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Old 06-14-2013, 07:28 PM   #1142
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It's a goddamn shame Heath Ledger died. He'd turned into an incredible actor.
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Old 06-14-2013, 07:37 PM   #1143
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It's a goddamn shame Heath Ledger died. He'd turned into an incredible actor.
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Old 06-14-2013, 07:39 PM   #1144
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I agree
I remember thinking "Holy shit, he was only 28. I'm 27!" Now I'm 33. How time flies... and really, it has only been 5 years.
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Old 06-14-2013, 07:43 PM   #1145
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I remember thinking "Holy shit, he was only 28. I'm 27!" Now I'm 33. How time flies... and really, it has only been 5 years.
wow, the past 5 years flew by so fast...
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Old 06-14-2013, 07:43 PM   #1146
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eh, it feels like 5 years.
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Old 06-14-2013, 07:44 PM   #1147
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eh, it feels like 5 years.
They did for me, at least.
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:51 PM   #1148
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I just wonder what the third one coulda/woulda been if he didn't die.
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:53 PM   #1149
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i don't know why you guys think they would have done two movies focusing on the joker.

even if he was alive i guarantee he would have been a cameo at best.
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:04 PM   #1150
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Could've been that Bane was the muscle and the Joker was the brains and maybe the Joker doesn't even show up til the last third of the movie. Batman defeats Bane and then finds out that everything was the Joker's doing all along. It doesn't really matter, but sometimes it's fun to imagine.
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:38 AM   #1151
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Never saw this when it came out due to some life shit getting in the way at about the same time -- finally caught it on HBO on-demand tonight.

I love the Batman character, and I get that Nolan was putting his own spin on things, but I just didn't like the idea that Bruce Wayne would walk away from being Batman not once but twice. Part of the central core of the character is that his commitment to justice and fighting for Gotham is so strong that it compels him to keep going, even when it means denying himself any semblance of a real life.

I like all 3 of Nolan's movies, but I'm eager to see another filmmaker take a stab at the character with more interest in letting Batman be Batman.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:10 AM   #1152
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I like all 3 of Nolan's movies, but I'm eager to see another filmmaker take a stab at the character with more interest in letting Batman be Batman.
I personally liked how Bruce struggled with being Batman once he realized there were real-world consequences to being a vigilante.
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I personally liked how Bruce struggled with being Batman once he realized there were real-world consequences to being a vigilante.
I guess -- but it's still a Superhero/Comic flick. I don't really have much of an interest in watching a film so realistic that Batman's career is functionally ended after, maybe, a few months total of BEING Batman because he destroys his knees and ends up suffering permanent brain damage from being concussed a dozen times. There has to be SOME suspension of disbelief in that regard.

And, in the end, it ends up never really being a struggle for Bruce Wayne to "give up" Batman. And, in that, the film series misses the essence of Batman -- Bruce Wayne is the alter-ego and Batman is the real person. Batman can never "be" Bruce Wayne for any longer than it takes to keep up appearances and make enough money to fund his crime fighting.

The film version of Bruce Wayne is only interested in being Batman when it's absolutely necessary. I didn't like that as a character choice, personally. I hope whoever ends up tackling the character next can blend Nolan's realistic universe with a more traditional take on Batman as a crime fighter (and, for a change, maybe show off a little of the "Worlds Greatest Detective" stuff).
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:46 AM   #1154
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i don't know why you guys think they would have done two movies focusing on the joker.

even if he was alive i guarantee he would have been a cameo at best.
goyer's initial idea following Batman Begins was to have the joker be arrested at the end of 2 and have him be on trial for part of 3. at the trial, he would've disfigured dent, turning him into two face. that got squashed fairly early though.
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