Boyd's skreetirement from DMB

[Thrawn]

He's always been the weak point of the band, and he's had some poor stretches in the past, but nothing like this.

[FiddySpence]

Originally Posted by typsitch Nobody knows the whole story here. I wonder if management or the band has already or should get involved with trying to promote some encouragement. I'd like to see a wholehearted effort on that front - especially from the band - on getting him more involved before I'd say it's a lost cause. Hell, give him another True Reflections if that's what it takes. Probably better lyrics than Dave can come up with now anyways.

true reflection's lyrics are worse than 99% of what dave has put down.

[typsitch]

Originally Posted by FiddySpence true reflection's lyrics are worse than 99% of what dave has put down.

I was referring to an imaginary new song by Boyd.

[FiddySpence]

Originally Posted by timh. i've been saying boyd sucks for years... glad people are finally seeing it

ah yes, this is a brand new complaint.

[Monk]

Originally Posted by timh. i've been saying boyd sucks for years... glad people are finally seeing it

It's nothing new, but I think people are just fed up with it. Boyd has never been an exceptional violin player by any means. His parts have always been fairly limited, but he had a role in this band and used to at least be able to keep up for the most part.

[gweeps]

Nah. Angel and Everybody Wake Up are worse than True Reflections. Steady is pretty bad, too. There are others up that way as well.

I love the horns on Blackjack.

[Jayes]

Originally Posted by Thrawn Ah-ha! Found it. Blackjack mute at about :32 seconds.

Sorry, that's embarassing for the whole band AND crew, leaving the video screens on him and everything. Very poor

I know someone is sitting back there at FOH holding the PFL on boyd's fader just searching for anything usable

[Monk]

There's a set of interviews that came out around the BW release that feature each member. Dave is touring NOLA's destruction areas due to Katrina, Carter is bowling... But Boyd is, of course, at the gym. He basically states that it is hard for him to be on tour - that he missed his family, and he implies he doesn't get to work out as often as he'd like while on tour.

[FiddySpence]

Originally Posted by gweeps Nah. Angel and Everybody Wake Up are worse than True Reflections. Steady is pretty bad, too. There are others up that way as well. I love the horns on Blackjack.

99% isn't 100% gweeps. and i vehemently disagree that Everybody Wake Up is worse than True Reflections.

"remember the time you hung out with the boys now
remember the things you used to say
I thought by now you'd be the president
but after all that was yesterday
you've had time to go out in the world now
but you chose to run away
people ask you what you're doin' now
you don't even know what to say

you think life is like a movie
where it all works out in the end
I think life is like a dessert
Where does it go where does it begin "


this may not be as awkward as some of what dave has done, but it's forehead slapping stupid. i mean, just so obvious and dumb. that's just as bad, if not worse, than "i call you up, you pick up" or singing about hungry bears or some shit

[FiddySpence]

Originally Posted by Monk There's a set of interviews that came out around the BW release that feature each member. Dave is touring NOLA's destruction areas due to Katrina, Carter is bowling... But Boyd is, of course, at the gym. He basically states that it is hard for him to be on tour - that he missed his family, and he implies he doesn't get to work out as often as he'd like while on tour.

the real kicker

[gweeps]

Originally Posted by FiddySpence I think life is like a dessert

I wish it was.

[deedisdone81]

I don't see how the band can survive without another core member leaving or dying, even if its such a small intricate part of the band as Boyd.

[Caveat Emperor]

You'll note that he managed to include "works out" into the lyrics. That's kind of impressive.

[FiddySpence]

Originally Posted by gweeps I wish it was.

copy and pasted from the almighty almanac.

Originally Posted by deedisdone81 I don't see how the band can survive without another core member leaving or dying, even if its such a small intricate part of the band as Boyd.

considering they're better right now than they have been since at least 1998 (imo) i don't see it being an issue. it's not like roi's death crippled them. they had been working with jeff for months prior to it happening and basically carried on without a hitch.

[typsitch]

Not really sticking up for him, but sometimes it feels like he gets the brunt of all DMB frustrations here.

Where the knock on Dave for writing crappy songs, being a complete lyrical memory cripple without his teleprompter crutch, lame piano parts, and a diminished guitar presence (perhaps due to Tim, fair) which at times being unable to play guitar and sing at the same time anymore (Seven). He's lost a step too. Not saying he's anywhere near Boyd but just throwing that out there.

[Thrawn]

It is true that as the band gets farther and farther away from what fans from their heyday expect to see that they'll get less and less popular. But Tim Reynolds was a huge part of their sound in the Big 3 era, what with being on all their studio albums and two out of the first three live releases (not to mention L@LC). I feel like he basically counts as an original member to most people.

[FiddySpence]

Originally Posted by typsitch Not really sticking up for him, but sometimes it feels like he gets the brunt of all DMB frustrations here. Where the knock on Dave for writing crappy songs, being a complete lyrical memory cripple without his teleprompter crutch, lame piano parts, and a diminished guitar presence (perhaps due to Tim, fair) which at times being unable to play guitar and sing at the same time anymore (Seven). He's lost a step too. Not saying he's anywhere near Boyd but just throwing that out there.

there's your answer.

[timh.]

Originally Posted by TheNoise like, that Help Myself video makes me mad. what is his job here? collecting a huge paycheck to not remember what to play? to be completely out of tune and checked out?

exactly. to me, it just seems to be a slap in the face to people who paid money to go to the show. ethically, he should feel some level of responsibility to fulfill his part of the consumer contract that is assumed through us buying tickets and supporting him. does he just not think enough of the thousands of fans at that show to put forth 15 minutes before the show nailing down a part? pretty poor.

[typsitch]

Originally Posted by deedisdone81 I don't see how the band can survive without another core member leaving or dying, even if its such a small intricate part of the band as Boyd.

Agree.

[FiddySpence]

Originally Posted by Thrawn It is true that as the band gets farther and farther away from what fans from their heyday expect to see that they'll get less and less popular. But Tim Reynolds was a huge part of their sound in the Big 3 era, what with being on all their studio albums and two out of the first three live releases (not to mention L@LC). I feel like he basically counts as an original member to most people.

this is not necessarily true.