Live Trax 31 - June 23, 2001 | Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ (w/ Bonus Disc) - released September 16, 2014

[Bluewater34]

Originally Posted by Thor2531 So....dmb basically pooped in my backyard and I have zero shame picking it up in a plastic bag. Sounds about right.

[mjf]

It's a nice change of pace and it is from right after their peak, but besides a few tracks I don't see myself going back to this much. Pity it wasn't a spring '02 show

[LIOGwhat]

Originally Posted by mjf It's a nice change of pace and it is from right after their peak, but besides a few tracks I don't see myself going back to this much. Pity it wasn't a spring '02 show

Been hoping for a spring 02 for a while...while this show might be well received because it's unique or fresh or whatever you want to call it...it's still 01. I remember at that time feeling like folsom field left so much to be desired when it was chosen for release.

But when I started downloading/seeing the shows in spring 02, it felt like the band had righted a ship that had been off the path.

My vote would go to the woodlands show where the encore closed out with a pretty epic lie in our graves. That show has traces of everyday songs in just the right dose given the time, plenty of the busted stuff material, and just a lot of other groovy stuff to fill out the rest of the show, with a unique encore too

[celluloid hero]

Originally Posted by Thor2531 So....dmb basically pooped in my backyard and I have zero shame picking it up in a plastic bag. Sounds about right.

Or maybe huge demonstrative displays of drama when a show that most people haven't heard in 13 years (or never) gets announced, it really just is a bunch of drama?

[ThememanXX]

I've always liked this Spring 2002 show:

Spoiler:

May 16, 2002
Verizon Wireless Amphitheater, Irvine, CA


So Right
Busted Stuff
Bartender
So Much to Say
The Space Between
Raven
Crush
Help Myself
If I Had It All
Rhyme & Reason
Pig
(Loving Wings)
Where Are You Going
Fool to Think
Grey Street
Everyday
Watchtower
_____________

(#40)
Funny How Time Slips Away
Tripping Billies

[Jack]

Originally Posted by Thor2531 So....dmb basically pooped in my backyard and I have zero shame picking it up in a plastic bag. Sounds about right.

But, it's your dog...

[mjf]

Originally Posted by ThememanXX I've always liked this Spring 2002 show: Spoiler: May 16, 2002 Verizon Wireless Amphitheater, Irvine, CA So Right Busted Stuff Bartender So Much to Say The Space Between Raven Crush Help Myself If I Had It All Rhyme & Reason Pig (Loving Wings) Where Are You Going Fool to Think Grey Street Everyday Watchtower _____________ (#40) Funny How Time Slips Away Tripping Billies

Looks good! Only nitpick would be no YNK

[mario]

Originally Posted by torres It had to be on my end. Something with Windows 8 and Java. Everything I tried, redownloading browsers, downgrading java, upgrading java, using different browsers. They even sent me fresh download links just in case. Nothing worked. Just kept getting error messages.

Gotcha. Sorry to hear that.

[Mersh]

So after another listen I will keep a few tracks around otherwise won't come back much. That being said it was not as bad of a release as I initially thought it was.


When does the pre-holiday release get announced and when does the next dmblive get dropped?

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by LIOGwhat Been hoping for a spring 02 for a while...

We'll certainly get one eventually

[mario]

Originally Posted by Mersh When does the pre-holiday release get announced

UtTaD 20th anniversary?

[celluloid hero]

Originally Posted by mario UtTaD 20th anniversary?

They have never really paid any attention to anniversaries. Whoever is doing their twitter feed now does, but the releases are not timed. I would not expect an announcement for this.

[ThememanXX]

Originally Posted by celluloid hero They have never really paid any attention to anniversaries. Whoever is doing their twitter feed now does, but the releases are not timed. I would not expect an announcement for this.

Would be quite alright if this was our 2014 release:

June 10, 2014
PNC Bank Arts Center, Holmdel, NJ


Ants Marching
Stolen Away on 55th & 3rd
Oh (Carter, Dave and Tim)
Pay for What You Get (Carter, Dave, Stefan and Tim)
Minarets
Snow Outside
What Would You Say
Two Step

_______________

Pig
Granny
Grey Street
Crush
Seven
Rooftop
Say Goodbye
Drive In Drive Out
If Only
Lie in Our Graves
(#36) ~
Save Me ~
You & Me ~
Stay (Wasting Time) ~
_____________

The Space Between
Pantala Naga Pampa
Rapunzel


~ - Lovely Ladies

[mario]

Originally Posted by celluloid hero They have never really paid any attention to anniversaries. Whoever is doing their twitter feed now does, but the releases are not timed. I would not expect an announcement for this.

There was only one anniversary so far, and it was R2T, an album many people don't know exists.

UtTaD is going to be a big release. Unless they think its so big it will sell itself anyway, Christmas seems pretty perfect.

[celluloid hero]

Originally Posted by mario There was only one anniversary so far, and it was R2T, an album many people don't know exists. UtTaD is going to be a big release. Unless they think its so big it will sell itself anyway, Christmas seems pretty perfect.

That wasn't an anniversary. It was released like 4 months ago. It wasn't announced *or* released anywhere around the anniversary of the release.

[mario]

Originally Posted by celluloid hero That wasn't an anniversary. It was released like 4 months ago. It wasn't announced *or* released anywhere around the anniversary of the release.

Huh? I said "there's only been one anniversary so far". And that was R2T in 2012. We're still in the 20th anniversary of the next album, let's see what happens.

I think because R2T is an album many people don't know existed, they dipped a toe into the water to try to gauge reaction to rereleases.

But if they want to make a big Christmas splash, they can promote the 20th Anniversary re-release of Under the Table and Dreaming, with two bonus songs and a vinyl addition! Then they can sell it in Europe on the spring tour and the US on the summer tour. Release something else next Christmas (2015), then the Crash rerelease in 2016, something else in 2017, and BTCS for Christmas 2018.

Seems like exactly the sort of thing Coran would do. Unless, again, they think it is a big enough splash standing alone, and they want to use the Christmas sales boost for a more difficult to sell release.

But if they were omnipotent, they'd buy a new warehouse with access for Brinks trucks to reverse into the loading dock, then release a special 20th Anniversary bundle of UtTaD with audio of the Richmond Symphony Orchestra shows.

[celluloid hero]

I read your post as they had released the upcoming one for an anniversary, my apologies.

However, this isn't February 1994. R2T is as known as other albums. It's right there in iTunes, Spotify, and all record stores. We're not talking about an obscure independent release any more. It was released by RCA and has been available on that label for 20 years.

[mario]

Originally Posted by celluloid hero I read your post as they had released the upcoming one for an anniversary, my apologies. However, this isn't February 1994. R2T is as known as other albums. It's right there in iTunes, Spotify, and all record stores. We're not talking about an obscure independent release any more. It was released by RCA and has been available on that label for 20 years.

No problem.

I realize R2T is on Itunes or whatever. But no one ever talks about DMB's first album, R2T. People remember buying UtTaD and wearing it out in 1994 or 1995. They remember buying Crash or BTCS on the day it was released. I don't think anyone has any memories attached to R2T.

R2T has no cultural significance. The big three might get an article in Rolling Stone devoted to them, or a 30 minute special on FUSE or something. They are cultural landmarks.

[celluloid hero]

They've been releasing shows forever, shows are tied to albums, release party shows, just because we're hitting 20 years, the only time they've ever celebrated any anniversary was doing the Caravan in year 20. I'm not convinced that wasn't post-decision marketing.

They wouldn't use a release date as an announcement date. They'd try to get it released around that area. The only reason I knew the 11.9.93 show was not in a releasable state was because I suggested it as a dmblive to release coinciding with the date. That's just not their thought process. If it does happen in the future, it would be a change. I think if you look at any date and wake up expecting it, you'll be disappointed.

[Bluewater34]

Do we know for sure that they're planning to continue the reissues for the rest of the albums? I can't think of any reason that they wouldn't, I just haven't seen anything official that this is an ongoing thing. Just curious if anyone has.