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Old 12-21-2012, 01:53 PM   #1001
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Just a rumor I read but this could be because AMC wants 22 episode seasons.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:06 PM   #1002
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16 is perfect i think
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:17 AM   #1003
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Yea, if they extend the season, we may get dragged out parts like the firsts half of season 2.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:33 AM   #1004
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I mean if this is over true creative differences (i.e. trying to make it more mainstream) it's a pretty stupid decision with it already being the highest rated TV show on all of TV. Don't how how more mainstream you can be than that.

Gotta be more episodes or a money thing.
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:48 PM   #1005
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i love Kurt Sutter so much



"AMC is run by small-minded, bottom-line thinkers who have no appreciation or gratitude for the effort of its creative personnel. Time and time again we see events like what happened today with Glen Mazzara. They continue to disrespect writers, shit on their audience and bury their network. Mazzara took the work-in-progress that was “Walking Dead” and turned it into a viable TV show with a future. Without him, that future is dim. Showrunners are not development executives, we’re not cookiecutter douchebags that you plug into a preexisting model. TWD will suffer. Even Zombies need consistency. “Mad Men” and “Breaking Bad” will be gone soon. So will AMC. I hope their fucking stock takes a dive and the shareholders line up (Josh) Sapan, (Charles) Dolan and (Charlie) Collier and shit in their open hands. Cunts."

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Old 12-22-2012, 04:02 PM   #1006
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Darabont, Mazarra, who's next?
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:06 PM   #1007
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Anything involving Dolan is doomed for failure.
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Old 12-22-2012, 05:12 PM   #1008
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As long ad Mazarra stays on for the rest of season 3, then that's cool. If the show turns to shit, then at least we can complete this season first.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:38 PM   #1009
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TWD first person shooter looks shittay

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Old 01-02-2013, 04:48 PM   #1010
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TWD first person shooter looks shittay



Yikes, it looks like Myst with guns and zombies.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:16 AM   #1011
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Blew through the comics in this down time. All the way current now. I must say, I like several things from each that don't correspond with the other. There are also quite a few things that I am excited to see on the show in the coming seasons, if done right.

Very much miss Darryl in the comics. He's a badass character on the show. Also surprised that Tyreese is only now showing up. He played such a heavy roll in the early stages of the comics that adding him now eliminates a lot of awesome shit that he did in the comics because those points are already behind the group.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:39 AM   #1012
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yeah, i like that they are running parallel to each other but still far enough apart that you can be surprised if you read the comics.

Been digging the current storyline in the comics. Carl really is a badass
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:16 PM   #1013
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Glen Mazzara was fired because Robert Kirkman is a fat idiot who AMC feels they need to keep close so mouth breathing nerds don't revolt

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Let’s take a moment to appreciate the success of Breaking Bad‘s Vince Gilligan, Mad Men‘s Matthew Weiner, Sons of Anarchy‘s Kurt Sutter, The Good Wife‘s Robert and Michelle King, Justified‘s Graham Yost, and Boardwalk Empire‘s Terence Winter, among others, all showrunners who have (generally) peacefully crafted their dramas in their own often brilliant vision — because sh*t’s about to get really frustrating and childish.

Several insiders confirm that Kirkman, whose detailed graphic novels form the basis of the series, is “very proprietary,” as one puts it. One adds, “I believe Robert wants to maintain a certain amount of his control, and AMC needs Robert for the fan base.” But despite the vitriol, some sources involved with Walking Dead say Kirkman was one of several producers who had issues with Mazzara and his vision.

One source says Mazzara’s shortcomings in running the series during the most recent third season became “abundantly clear…especially for the second half of the season.” This source says production was shut down “several times” because of a lack of material.

To date, Kirkman has responded to the criticism only with a restrained tweet: “@sutterink is brilliant and Sons is my favorite show on TV. Still, it’s upsetting to see him ranting about things he knows nothing about.” AMC declined comment. (Via)

I know I’m not in The Business and have never eaten from a Craft Services Table and don’t have any Professional Escorts on my phone, but I’m a little skeptical when it comes to, “Especially for the second half of the season.” Under Mazzara’s watch, The Walking Dead went from frustratingly boring to still inconsistent, yes, but also highly entertaining and you’re not actively rooting for every character to “get it” anymore (only some). Why not just crowdsource showrunning to the Internet? That’s basically what’s happening anyway: “OK, first, this one zombie gets hit in the head with a shovel, and then another zombie has its brains splattered on the sidewalk, and then Maggie takes her top off, and then Daryl says something Classic Daryl-like, and then Michonne does something badass, and then 12,000 other zombies get it in the span of 31 seconds. THAT’S A WRAP EVERYONE. Now if you’ll excuse us, we’re going to eat our weight in mini-hot dogs in our totally boss trailer.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:25 PM   #1014
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Sutter is right. It's an awfully successful show (commercial and critically) to get so repeatedly fucked with.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:26 PM   #1015
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Sutter is right. It's an awfully successful show (commercial and critically) to get so repeatedly fucked with.
AMC has never met a successful show they didn't feel like they had better ideas how to run than the producers who actually made them successful.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:29 PM   #1016
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If Kirkman is who they want to lean on, just put him in charge and stop letting him undermine everyone else.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:32 PM   #1017
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If Kirkman is who they want to lean on, just put him in charge and stop letting him undermine everyone else.
i guarantee he wants to have the creative power/input of a showrunner without having to actually do the grueling day to day work since he also has the comic book to write.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:39 PM   #1018
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I mean, If they get rid of him, wouldnt that end the tv show?

I guess I could understand him wanting his product to be done right, but if he thinks it isnt I dont know wtf he is watching.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:41 PM   #1019
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All these showrunners are ending up like main characters, getting killed off after season.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:42 PM   #1020
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I mean, If they get rid of him, wouldnt that end the tv show?.
no. or at least it shouldn't be. if anything, it's out of the ordinary how much say as the author of the source material he has. usually they just get a "producer" credit but are essentially ignored. which, considering the show is supposed to be (or should be) it's own separate thing they really should just cut him off altogether and let the two pieces of work stand on their own merits and go in their own completely different directions.
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