Live Trax 46 - July 7, 2018 | Ruoff Home Mortgage Music Center, Noblesville, IN

[DMBBoyd]

More Dave and Tim, less DMB.

[ThememanXX]

Originally Posted by DMBBoyd More Dave and Tim, less DMB.

This is the wrong opinion.

[Jack]

It is exactly the correct opinion. A few more choice 96 and 97 shows and I could be content in my fandom.

[ThememanXX]

Originally Posted by Jack It is exactly the correct opinion. A few more choice 96 and 97 shows and I could be content in my fandom.

I've been pretty vocal about D&T shows boring me beyond belief. I feel like if you've heard one version of a song, you've heard them all.

[Bluewater34]

You are wrong.

[gweeps]

Yup. He is. Compared to DMB, especially over the past decade, D&T is always a breath of fresh air. Could they mix up their sets more? Sure. But that's a small complaint compared with the avalanche we have when it comes to DMB.

[ThememanXX]

I guess I'd rather a good DMB release over any D&T release, but any D&T release over a bad DMB release like this latest one, then.

[Thrawn]

Not to be a broken record, but we really need another release from 2000 this year. Or 1997. But mostly 2000.

[DMBCLSTJ]

Originally Posted by ThememanXX I guess I'd rather a good DMB release over any D&T release, but any D&T release over a bad DMB release like this latest one, then.

Problem is, they haven't even scratched the surface of 1995 - 2000 version of DMB, particularly 1997. There is so much to choose from in 1997 that would be an incredible LT release. We already have a bunch of Dave and Tim stuff (Luther, Radio City, DMBLive releases, LT) and as you alluded to, there isn't that much that interests me from post 1999 D&T. Once you've heard Bartender and DDTW for the thousandth time, there really isn't much variation there.

[Bluewater34]

Originally Posted by Thrawn Not to be a broken record, but we really need another release from 2000 this year. Or 1997. But mostly 2000.

D&T late Feb. 97, DMB 2000 (anytime, but Sept. would be perfect), or DMB early June 97 (6/8/97 please) are exactly what is needed to breathe some life back into this floundering series.

[batleon]

Originally Posted by Bluewater34 I don’t think you read that right. I wasn’t saying this was the worst release in the history of the series. I was agreeing that 2018 was the worst year, overall, in the history of live DMB releases, since they started Live Trax. There were only two and neither are very good. I don’t see how anyone could argue that any other year was worse.

Yeah that was my initial point, just to make it more clear. I've often dismissed bad releases in the past because we've been getting 4 or more every year and there's usually enough diversity of releases that everyone can find something they are happy about in a given year. With only two this year and both being from the last 5 years the quantity and diversity were lacking and I don't blame people for being irritated.

Originally Posted by mario Hold my beer. - The 2019 Live Trax Releases

Oh God I hope not.

Originally Posted by DMBBoyd More Dave and Tim, less DMB.

Honestly I don't care as long as it's good. More releases with some diversity between them will get better results.

[ThememanXX]

Originally Posted by Thrawn Not to be a broken record, but we really need another release from 2000 this year. Or 1997. But mostly 2000.

Originally Posted by DMBCLSTJ Problem is, they haven't even stratched the surface of 1995 - 2000 version of DMB, particularly 1997. There is so much to choose from in 1997 that would be an incredible LT release. We already have a bunch of Dave and Tom stuff (Luther, Radio City, DMBLive releases, LT) and as you alluded to, there isn't that much that interests me from post 1999 D&T. Once you've heard Bartender and DDTW for the thousandth time, there really isn't much variation there.

Originally Posted by Bluewater34 D&T late Feb. 97, DMB 2000 (anytime, but Sept. would be perfect), or DMB early June 97 (6/8/97 please) are exactly what is needed to breathe some life back into this floundering series.

These are all the correct opinion.

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by Jack It is exactly the correct opinion. A few more choice 96 and 97 shows and I could be content in my fandom.

Originally Posted by Thrawn Not to be a broken record, but we really need another release from 2000 this year. Or 1997. But mostly 2000.

Hells yeah. Some choice, well-mixed, 96 and/or 97 D&T, and June '97 and September '00 DMB and I'm good.

[Rowsdower]

I personally enjoyed the brief 2017 D+T tour more than 2018 DMB.

[Thrawn]

My specific wish list is basically down to a Spring '02 Busted Stuff, the debut incomplete Shotgun, JTR and Hello Again and Kit Kat Jam from 2010, and lots and lots and lots of stuff from 2000. I also acknowledge there's great stuff missing in 1997, which isn't as important to me personally. But check off everything on that list, and I'd be 100% happy with the live releases we have.

I do want an awful lot from 2000, though. For one thing, there are like 12 Grey Streets that ought to be released.

[ThememanXX]

Originally Posted by Thrawn My specific wish list is basically down to a Spring '02 Busted Stuff

Always thought this'd be a solid release:

Spoiler:

May 16, 2002
Verizon Wireless Amphitheater, Irvine, CA

So Right
Busted Stuff
Bartender
So Much to Say
The Space Between
Raven
Crush
Help Myself
If I Had It All
Rhyme & Reason
Pig
Loving Wings [tease] +
Where Are You Going
Fool to Think
Grey Street
Everyday
Watchtower
____________

#40 [tease] +
Funny How Time Slips Away +
Tripping Billies

Originally Posted by Thrawn the debut incomplete Shotgun

So this one, too, then:

Spoiler:

June 10, 2006
Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA

One Sweet World
Pig
Crash into Me
JTR
Pantala Naga Pampa
Rapunzel
Smooth Rider
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
Improv/Jam
Where Are You Going
So Right
Shotgun
Idea of You
Stay (Wasting Time)
Digging a Ditch
Tripping Billies
____________

Sister +
American Baby Intro
Two Step

Originally Posted by Thrawn JTR and Hello Again and Kit Kat Jam from 2010

That list includes literally only one show for all three birds stoned at once:

Spoiler:

May 28, 2010
Comcast Theatre, Hartford, CT

JTR
Seven
Hello Again
Spaceman
Proudest Monkey
Satellite
Funny the Way It Is
Rye Whiskey +
Shake Me Like a Monkey
Busted Stuff
Kit Kat Jam
#41
Grey Street
You & Me
Dancing Nancies
Too Much
Ants Marching
____________

Break for It
You Might Die Trying

[dmb2much40]

Originally Posted by Bluewater34 D&T late Feb. 97, DMB 2000 (anytime, but Sept. would be perfect), or DMB early June 97 (6/8/97 please) are exactly what is needed to breathe some life back into this floundering series.

I’ll take all of this plus a spring 2002 and a December 1998 for good measure.

[Thrawn]

Originally Posted by ThememanXX Always thought this'd be a solid release: Spoiler: May 16, 2002 Verizon Wireless Amphitheater, Irvine, CA So Right Busted Stuff Bartender So Much to Say The Space Between Raven Crush Help Myself If I Had It All Rhyme & Reason Pig Loving Wings [tease] + Where Are You Going Fool to Think Grey Street Everyday Watchtower ____________ #40 [tease] + Funny How Time Slips Away + Tripping Billies So this one, too, then: Spoiler: June 10, 2006 Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA One Sweet World Pig Crash into Me JTR Pantala Naga Pampa Rapunzel Smooth Rider Dancing Nancies Warehouse Improv/Jam Where Are You Going So Right Shotgun Idea of You Stay (Wasting Time) Digging a Ditch Tripping Billies ____________ Sister + American Baby Intro Two Step That list includes literally only one show for all three birds stoned at once: Spoiler: May 28, 2010 Comcast Theatre, Hartford, CT JTR Seven Hello Again Spaceman Proudest Monkey Satellite Funny the Way It Is Rye Whiskey + Shake Me Like a Monkey Busted Stuff Kit Kat Jam #41 Grey Street You & Me Dancing Nancies Too Much Ants Marching ____________ Break for It You Might Die Trying

Yep. They don't all have to be shows, though - those particular tracks coming up on a Warehouse disc or Live 25-like thing would be fine.

At this point, all the shows I want in their entirety, top to bottom, are in 2000. (And maybe 4.7.02, but the Bartender we got from that show on Live 25 helps with that.)

[greykitkat36]

12.3.98 needs a release. As does 12.7.98. Sept ‘00 yes. Anything ‘97 yes. Would like another ‘10 release.

D+T: anything from 2017–preferably Mann N2 or Mexico. That was a really solid tour. And also the 1/17/15 Oakland show which I still think is one of the best shows they’ve done post ‘03.

[willndmb]

Originally Posted by Rowsdower I personally enjoyed the brief 2017 D+T tour more than 2018 DMB.

yup