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Old 03-02-2010, 09:09 PM   #41
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:10 PM   #42
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:29 AM   #43
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not to go all godfather on this song, but I've almost totally lost any desire to hear this song. It is wasted potential. there's some really nice music there, but they've never figured out, IMHO, how to make it work. sounds so forced to me. Now, I'm not saying it couldn't be a great song, and I actually think hearing a studio version would help significantly, allowing them to give the song some focus and clarity.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:20 AM   #44
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not to go all godfather on this song, but I've almost totally lost any desire to hear this song. It is wasted potential. there's some really nice music there, but they've never figured out, IMHO, how to make it work. sounds so forced to me. Now, I'm not saying it couldn't be a great song, and I actually think hearing a studio version would help significantly, allowing them to give the song some focus and clarity.
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:28 AM   #45
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not to go all godfather on this song, but I've almost totally lost any desire to hear this song. It is wasted potential. there's some really nice music there, but they've never figured out, IMHO, how to make it work. sounds so forced to me. Now, I'm not saying it couldn't be a great song, and I actually think hearing a studio version would help significantly, allowing them to give the song some focus and clarity.
yup that's exactly how I feel about it too. It had great potential, but it's just forced and disjointed at this point.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:02 PM   #46
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yup that's exactly how I feel about it too. It had great potential, but it's just forced and disjointed at this point.
I wouldn't be so quick to write it off, I don't think it's really been played consistently enough yet to say the band has settled on a particular approach to it, though i'll agree the current take is not optimal.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:43 PM   #48
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I missed this: "I love you more than you bring me down"

If Squirm sticks around, which it certainly should, there's hope for this.
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Old 03-03-2010, 09:16 PM   #49
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not to go all godfather on this song, but I've almost totally lost any desire to hear this song. It is wasted potential. there's some really nice music there, but they've never figured out, IMHO, how to make it work. sounds so forced to me. Now, I'm not saying it couldn't be a great song, and I actually think hearing a studio version would help significantly, allowing them to give the song some focus and clarity.
Yeah. These have been my thoughts since 2008.
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:01 AM   #50
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I guess this song doesn't matter to Dave anymore?
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:06 AM   #51
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The Cville version is so awesome, the 09 versions just weren't even close to as powerful and as strong as the late 06 versions, plus I cant stand Tim's play on the 09 versions
Boyd is beautiful on this version. Of course, they ditched that part later.

This version has so much musical depth to it. Feels like a whole song. But same thing happened to Sugar Will. With each passing way, something else is stripped from it.
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Old 07-28-2010, 07:19 AM   #52
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Boyd is beautiful on this version. Of course, they ditched that part later.

This version has so much musical depth to it. Feels like a whole song. But same thing happened to Sugar Will. With each passing way, something else is stripped from it.
I think it's more because when they decide to relearn the song and bust it out, they only play it once a tour or just a few times. They probably just relearn the basic parts and add some "new" flare to it that they think of as they practice or play along. They probably don't take the time to relearn exactly how they played it years ago. If they played the songs more often I bet they would become more intricate.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:13 AM   #53
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His wife likes it. Re: "This is for Ashley"

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And to me the more interesting thing is that Shotgun doesn't seem to matter to the online fans anymore.....
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And to me the more interesting thing is that Shotgun doesn't seem to matter to the online fans anymore.....
It sure as hell matters to me. It's one of my favorite and most desired songs to hear. It would be great to hear this one truly be finished off
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:38 PM   #55
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Song got progressively worse imo. I wanted to love it b/c it had some really great parts, but it never came together. Unless they actually put some thought into the arrangement and lyrics, I really don't have any desire to hear this again.
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Better than half of the Big Whiskey songs. Dave can't just strum along on it. The lyrics work when he keeps the screaming to a minimum.
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Better than half of the Big Whiskey songs. Dave can't just strum along on it. The lyrics work when he keeps the screaming to a minimum.
which he really hasn't done since almost early 07.
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Boyd is beautiful on this version. Of course, they ditched that part later.

This version has so much musical depth to it. Feels like a whole song. But same thing happened to Sugar Will. With each passing way, something else is stripped from it.
i really hate that about them. they put it away, and bring it back two years later minus its soul. how hard is it to go back and listen to a couple tapes?
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Boyd is beautiful on this version. Of course, they ditched that part later.

This version has so much musical depth to it. Feels like a whole song. But same thing happened to Sugar Will. With each passing way, something else is stripped from it.
I have a hard time listening to any other version than this version from Charlottesville. I hate how the term tightening up comes about it and songs like Sugar Will and Shotgun are completely different.
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