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Old 05-16-2017, 08:17 AM   #6041
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You can't be fucking serious with this. There is no precedent for this whatsoever. No other president ever abruptly fired the FBI director, betrayed us intelligence, his a national security advisor who was known to be compromised, threatened to disband the court system, flagrantly ignored record retention laws....

Stop lying to yourself.
Apparently the approach of impeachment is just a far cry of the small minority, at least according to Pelosi. As she said, based on facts. So you've got some work to do.

And even still, my post is completely true.
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:46 AM   #6042
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A 70 year old woman got arrested in Sweden for "hate speech." She complained on Facebook that the migrants were pooping on streets.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:06 AM   #6043
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Seems important but did you hear about the 70 year old man in the US that revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said that Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information Trump relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said that Trump’s decision to do so risks cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and National Security Agency.

“This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:09 AM   #6044
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Yea, sounds like our President violated his sworn oath of office. But tell me more about the sweet white grandmother of four who was hassled for complaining that dirty brown people were pooping in the streets.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:26 AM   #6045
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Party members in congress burying their head in the sand because their party is in the White House? Say it aint so. Surely this will be the first time.
Oh "Matthew Stafford", you're so clever!! You're right, this is a completely typical Administration. Silly me!
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:28 AM   #6046
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Yea, sounds like our President violated his sworn oath of office. But tell me more about the sweet white grandmother of four who was hassled for complaining that dirty brown people were pooping in the streets.
President has the right to disclose and declassify anything he wants whenever. Now, he's a moron for doing it and obviously an absolutely insanely boneheaded move and probably had no clue what he was doing, but he can do it. Perks of his title.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:30 AM   #6047
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Oh "Matthew Stafford", you're so clever!! You're right, this is a completely typical Administration. Silly me!
It's a typical congress.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:31 AM   #6048
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RYAN: WH should focus on jobs
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:34 AM   #6049
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That is absolutely not true. It is the most craven, gutless Congress we've ever seen.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:35 AM   #6050
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Yea, sounds like our President violated his sworn oath of office. But tell me more about the sweet white grandmother of four who was hassled for complaining that dirty brown people were pooping in the streets.
You can remove the "sounds like".

Trump tweeted today (in continued defiance of federal record preservation laws) confirming he in fact did it.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:38 AM   #6051
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President has the right to disclose and declassify anything he wants whenever. Now, he's a moron for doing it and obviously an absolutely insanely boneheaded move and probably had no clue what he was doing, but he can do it. Perks of his title.
Actually, he doesn't. Not when its another nation's information they shared with us on condition we don't tell anyone else about it, which is exactly what happened here.

He has unilaterally crippled our foreign intelligence, as many people predicted he would, because no one will share anything sensitive with us now since they know he'll just tell the Russians about it.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:44 AM   #6052
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If there’s a sense that we’re cozying up to regimes like Vladimir Putin’s Russia, that could have something of a chilling effect," said a senior official from former President Barack Obama’s administration. "The challenge may be in places like Germany, France, potentially even the United Kingdom. If there is a reorientation toward Moscow, there could be some doubts there.”
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"Most European services will be influenced in their approach by whatever assessment and reassurances their U.S. counterparts give about the trustworthiness of the new administration,” a senior European security official said. “There is huge implicit trust between U.S. and British agencies, for example, that will not be easily undermined even by the arrival of a new president with unknown qualities.”

For all their famed prowess, American spy agencies rely a great deal on foreign intelligence partners for help on everything from counter-terrorism to cybersecurity. Such relationships are especially vital in regions where language and cultural barriers are high. Figuring out what’s happening in North Korea, for instance, is much easier done with the help of South Korea’s intelligence sector

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Old 05-16-2017, 10:14 AM   #6053
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There are no limits to his idiocy:
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:26 AM   #6054
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:30 AM   #6055
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President has the right to disclose and declassify anything he wants whenever. Now, he's a moron for doing it and obviously an absolutely insanely boneheaded move and probably had no clue what he was doing, but he can do it. Perks of his title.
Everyone here understands this, but it doesn't make what I said incorrect. Nixon famously said: if the president does it, it's not illegal. How'd that work out for him?
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Old 05-16-2017, 11:11 AM   #6056
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Just as predicted:

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A senior European intelligence official tells The Associated Press that his country might stop sharing information with the United States if it confirms President Donald Trump shared classified details with Russian officials.
The official said Tuesday that doing so “could be a risk for our sources.”
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Old 05-16-2017, 11:18 AM   #6057
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Everyone here understands this, but it doesn't make what I said incorrect. Nixon famously said: if the president does it, it's not illegal. How'd that work out for him?
I want him impeached as much as most on here do. I'm just not grasping at every potential straw.
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Old 05-16-2017, 01:11 PM   #6058
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All these comments are based off a Washington Post article. They are a regular fake news source.
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:14 PM   #6060
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Washington Post called Ron Paul's YouTube channel "sophisticated Russian propaganda." There's not even an attempt to be objective, they're straight propaganda.
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