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JustinC · 12-13-2010, 08:34 PM

DMB sold out the moment they signed with Cap$haw

Jack · 12-13-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Just1nC

DMB sold out the moment they signed with Cap$haw

1992?

JustinC · 12-13-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack

1992?

I mean they probably didn't think they sold out at the time.

FiddySpence · 12-13-2010, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack

They give a lot of money away, and high fives all around, but they also do a lot of these events under the covers which makes me wonder how much of this income is going to charity (not that they should feel/be obligated to give once cent of it away).

I have no problem with any band getting paid and taking these relatively easy greatest hits gigs for big quick cash. I have a problem with Dave Matthews doing it because it makes him a hypocrite. I expect more from him because I have invested a big portion of my life into this band and bought into all the shit dave claimed to hold important to him. Realizing he's just like every other dude on the block is a little disheartening. This and the microsoft gig just forces home all the shit I have been a sucker not to see in plain sight for the last ten years.

i'm pretty sure almost every band who does corporate gigs does it "under the covers". it's not exactly "rock and roll".

i understand your frustration if dave's politics and views were a big part of what drew you to this band. thankfully for me it was just the music and i don't give a shit what dave is really like so long as he writes a good tune.

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as I said, I have no problem with bands doing that. All the power to them. I have a problem with Dave doing stuff like stand up for a cure and farm aid, preaching the ills of tobacco and commercial machines and THEN doing this. Same with talking about the environment and THEN taking a private jet across the country to play the opening of a god damn microsoft store in a mall in seattle only to turn around and fly right back. "Don't worry, I bought some carbon credits brah."

i agree this is a hypocritical thing that a lot of bands now have fallen into. rage against the machine maybe the most of all.

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Originally Posted by Tomacco

He did plug the movie though too. I dunno, this is all still way too unclear to take a shit fit over.

like people have ever needed a legitimate reason to flip out around here.

pgr17 · 12-13-2010, 10:44 PM

FiddySpence · 12-13-2010, 10:54 PM

Crush87 · 12-14-2010, 12:00 AM

People shit on Capshawn. DMB is an empire and yes Capshaw help build that but Dave is the head of DMB and DMB camp. He can turn anything down he pleases. Let's not make this a Capshaw thing.

NiCK Crush · 12-14-2010, 12:25 AM

No Capshaw, No Band. And either way, them playing some gig you don't agree with isn't going to all of a sudden make you start hating your favorite songs.

Slowbutspeeding · 12-14-2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pgr17

hahah LOVE IT.

This is DMB drama at it's best. At the very least it sparked a jolly debate.

FiddySpence · 12-14-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NiCK Crush

them playing some gig you don't agree with isn't going to all of a sudden make you start hating your favorite songs.

i'm not so sure about Jack. his vitriol is intense.

SomeDevil17 · 12-14-2010, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Crush87

People shit on Capshawn. DMB is an empire and yes Capshaw help build that but Dave is the head of DMB and DMB camp. He can turn anything down he pleases. Let's not make this a Capshaw thing.

When was the last time dave turned any gig down though? I would say for the most part Dave is just in it for the money now. Did Capshaw make him this way? who knows.

SomeDevil17 · 12-14-2010, 12:54 AM

Also, the important thing to look at here, is the band is still playing. Do some people have the right to be angry? Of course they do, but should it push them further away from the band after all the hardcore fan-base( if you post on here you are hardcore to me) has been through? absolutely not.

FiddySpence · 12-14-2010, 12:55 AM

when would you ever find out if dave turned a gig down?

brian3641 · 12-14-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NiCK Crush

No Capshaw, No Band. And either way, them playing some gig you don't agree with isn't going to all of a sudden make you start hating your favorite songs.

Actually, I'm sitting here now mulling this over in my head and it just hit me: Two Step is pure bullshit! How have I wasted so much time on this band? I need to find a band that isn't interested in making money and, while I'm at it, one with a drummer that's actually good.

Slowbutspeeding · 12-14-2010, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeDevil17

Also, the important thing to look at here, is the band is still playing. Do some people have the right to be angry? Of course they do, but should it push them further away from the band after all the hardcore fan-base( if you post on here you are hardcore to me) has been through? absolutely not.

I would definitely consider my girlfriend and I hardcore. No doubt. Not afraid to admit it.

FiddySpence · 12-14-2010, 01:52 AM

hardcore slut maybe.

FiddySpence · 12-14-2010, 01:52 AM

FiddySpence · 12-14-2010, 01:52 AM

apologies.

brian3641 · 12-14-2010, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dissident

BOOM

goes the dynamite?

Slowbutspeeding · 12-14-2010, 03:11 AM

wow.

fucking douche bag.

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12-13-2010, 08:34 PM	#101
JustinC Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14,011	DMB sold out the moment they signed with Cap$haw

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12-14-2010, 12:00 AM	#107
Crush87 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York Posts: 10,662	People shit on Capshawn. DMB is an empire and yes Capshaw help build that but Dave is the head of DMB and DMB camp. He can turn anything down he pleases. Let's not make this a Capshaw thing.

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SomeDevil17 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,162	Also, the important thing to look at here, is the band is still playing. Do some people have the right to be angry? Of course they do, but should it push them further away from the band after all the hardcore fan-base( if you post on here you are hardcore to me) has been through? absolutely not.

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FiddySpence TDCya Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 67,585	when would you ever find out if dave turned a gig down?

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FiddySpence TDCya Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 67,585	hardcore slut maybe.

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FiddySpence TDCya Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 67,585	BOOM

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FiddySpence TDCya Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 67,585	apologies.

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Slowbutspeeding TDCya Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 2,654	wow. fucking douche bag.