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Old 03-21-2018, 10:19 PM   #141
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Ah. Crazy was changed a bit more as it became Captain than hmm? was when it became titled GGT. Was the D&F debut of GGT before Tinely Park?
I believe D+F debuted GGT at Bonnaroo and it was called "Thing" on the setlist. a few days before the dmb one. Dave's songwriting peak to me is without a doubt '98-'04 and I think most would agree. while a lot of the early songs are also great, the level from 98-04 is on another place for me.

9/10 songs Dave wrote from 91-04 were pretty damn good. From 05-18 I'd say it's been more like 2/10.
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Old 03-21-2018, 10:40 PM   #142
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I was standing at the rail with an eighth of shrooms in my tummy. He undoubtedly debuted the song then. I remember people walking away from the show saying they felt like they just watched an All-Star game. D&F owned Bonnaroo that year (actually is was probably Trey because he played with TAB and several other acts that weekend).
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:00 AM   #143
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I believe D+F debuted GGT at Bonnaroo and it was called "Thing" on the setlist. a few days before the dmb one. Dave's songwriting peak to me is without a doubt '98-'04 and I think most would agree. while a lot of the early songs are also great, the level from 98-04 is on another place for me.

9/10 songs Dave wrote from 91-04 were pretty damn good. From 05-18 I'd say it's been more like 2/10.
Not that I necessarily disagree, but you're including Everyday and Some Devil both in here, right?
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:39 PM   #144
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Not that I necessarily disagree, but you're including Everyday and Some Devil both in here, right?
Yeah for sure. Even ED has some good songs on it. My point was that his ratio of good to bad songs was much higher, I don't think anyone on here would really argue that.
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Old 03-22-2018, 01:31 PM   #145
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I also vividly remember being in a theater watching the Phish webcast on 6/17 and looking at the live setlist and seeing "New Song #2" come across first. I was like "WAIT. New Song #2? Where's #1???"
yes sir and the theatre crew in suburban chicago having some issues with the phish crowd - "Please leave your shoes on, folks"

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Ah. Crazy was changed a bit more as it became Captain than hmm? was when it became titled GGT. Was the D&F debut of GGT before Tinely Park?
That Tinley GGT is worth a re-visit, Carter's drum intro is pretty cool and they got away from that pretty quickly.
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:12 AM   #146
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"Little Thing" from that Dave & Tim benefit show in November 2016.

Shame what that song became.
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:16 AM   #147
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:25 AM   #148
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That bad?
It's not bad, it's just not the same song anymore. Hasn't been since Some Devil. No story, just vocalizing.

And holy shit, OSW is only tolerable with Dave & Tim now.

Neko Case should guest again. She's great on this Maker.
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:34 AM   #149
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It's really An Another Thing, but the "Little Thing" opening N2 in Chicago last year D&T was cool as hell. I'll never pass up an opportunity to hear that one live, just hearing Dave play those chords gives me the goosebumps.
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:38 PM   #150
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It's not bad, it's just not the same song anymore. Hasn't been since Some Devil. No story, just vocalizing.
I haven't heard that performance, but the some devil recording is basically just vocalizing and I think that's one of daves finest vocal performances.
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Old 03-23-2018, 11:28 PM   #151
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for me the tape I had of D&T at UNH in 96 ruined every version of 'An Another Thing'
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Old 03-24-2018, 02:23 AM   #152
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I've never been a huge fan of "Little Thing" really. It was always pretty much an incomplete idea/song..like #40. You can hear the potential in it, but it never sounded like a finished song to me. Even An' Another Thing (which is as close to finished as it gets), is really more like a jam/interlude. Basically I could take it or leave it. Would be cool to hear live one time just to get it off the "bucket list" but I'd be fine not hearing it. If I had to pick one, the Live At Luther once is still my favorite.
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