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Old 01-07-2010, 09:17 PM   #61
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two 1/2 hour shows would be a terrible idea.
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:44 PM   #62
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it's looking like leno will be a half hour and conan will be an hour. fallon will also be an hour and carson is (finally) getting the boot.
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:45 PM   #63
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Well it'll be interesting to see what their plan is then.
I think the plan being thrown around that got leaked was...

11:35 - Jay
12:05 - Conan
1:05 - Jimmy Fallon

I wonder if Conan would walk. It's pretty ridiculous how Leno and NBC fucked any chance his Tonight Show had of working.
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:46 PM   #64
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i think he should walk. i would not want to work for a network that runs itself this way.
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:47 PM   #65
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I think the plan being thrown around that got leaked was...

11:35 - Jay
12:05 - Conan
1:05 - Jimmy Fallon

I wonder if Conan would walk. It's pretty ridiculous how Leno and NBC fucked any chance his Tonight Show had of working.
What would the name of Jay's show be? The Jay Leno Show Redux?
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:51 PM   #66
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What would the name of Jay's show be? The Jay Leno Show Redux?
I gues that would be a point of contention. I don't know if this is just an idea from the higher-ups or if Conan/Jay/Jimmy have already agreed to this notion.

But as I said, I wonder if Conan would walk. What a clusterfuck.
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:52 PM   #67
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:55 PM   #68
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what? his dream job is the tonight show. whatever fucking thing he's doing at midnight will not be the tonight show.
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:57 PM   #69
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what? his dream job is the tonight show. whatever fucking thing he's doing at midnight will not be the tonight show.
Well that's what I was asking before... are they gonna rename all the shows?
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:01 PM   #70
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Well that's what I was asking before... are they gonna rename all the shows?
He may have a show called the Tonight Show, but he might feel like the situation has changed so much (with a comedy/variety show coming on right before him). It may be called the Tonight Show, but the Tonight Show has been 11:30 for as long as I can remember. He may feel he has the Tonight Show in name only. That might not be enough to make him stay.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:03 PM   #71
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Right right, I see what you're saying.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:08 PM   #72
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obviously i'm not in his position and can't say for certainty what i'd do. but i'd like to think i have enough pride to give this network the middle finger and go to fox or something.

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Old 01-07-2010, 10:09 PM   #73
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oh and leno's monologue...

"what does NBC stand for? Never Believe your Contract"

just one of a few NBC jokes tonight. obviously none of them are funny because jay leno is doing it, but at least he's showing a pair.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:18 PM   #74
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Conan should absolutely walk. The network is showing no loyalty to him whatsoever and they're living in the past while completely screwing over the present and future. I don't know what they think Jay Leno can contribute for a half an hour in that time slot but whatever it is will get crushed by Letterman, thereby screwing over Conan and Fallon. Aside from a straight-up platoon (one week Conan/one week Jay), I don't really see there being enough room for the two of them.
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letterman has to be loving this.
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:40 AM   #76
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Conan doesn't have that punch he used to but he's still miles above Leno and Letterman who have both sucked for over a decade now. You have to realize that a lot of those 11:30pm ratings come from stupid people and old people in Nebraska and Florida and Minnesota and shit places like that (no offense to anyone from those states). They're the same people who keep horrible shows like King of the Hill on the air.

Now I don't watch late night shows like I used to because I need to use my brain at work so what I would really love is for Jay and Conan to switch spots. If Conan were on at 10 I wouldn't miss a show.

By the way I do agree that Fallon has gotten better. Still not my cup of tea but it's not as bad as it was when he first started.
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letterman is awesome and so is king of the hill. fuck you.
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:53 AM   #78
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Fallon is ok, I watch it for the Roots.
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:04 AM   #79
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Jay Leno is a dick. You knew something like this would happen the minute he didn't actually retire like he implied that he would.

Jay Leno is the Brett Favre of late night TV. He just won't go away.
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Leno should face the fact that he said he was going to retire. NBC made other plans and they shouldn't backtrack for him. If they lose Conan it will be stupid. Every other network will be on the phone with his agent. Leno's ratings suck because no one cares about him anymore. He threw in the towel. Give it up Jay!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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