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Old 08-05-2007, 01:54 PM   #21
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it's not in Sugar Will either. it's the same thing for 15 minutes.
But it's not something as simple as full chords in Sugar Will. It's a worked riff, something much harder and more complex than Dreaming Tree.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:56 PM   #22
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Plus, I don't think it is established (in an interview or otherwise) that Stefan wrote the baseline of the song first. He very well could've started with the guitar riff (see Hunger).
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:56 PM   #23
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Sorry...I mean I guess I could have posted this in the thread for the show last night...but I didn't see an exclusive Cornbread thread. My bad.
There should be a Cornbread discussion thread, IMO.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:58 PM   #24
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There should be a Cornbread discussion thread, IMO.
alright...i'll change the subject to make it official
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:00 PM   #25
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alright...i'll change the subject to make it official
Well done.

So..... this is a cool song, yes?
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:03 PM   #26
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Well done.

So..... this is a cool song, yes?
It's a very fun song
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:09 PM   #27
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It's a rare artist who can divide their attention between two different projects simultaneously and get quality on both sides, and I don't think Dave is one.

That's not so much a knock against him as it is just my take on the nature of songwriting. Personally I just can't imagine having two projects at once that I could be equally passionate about; one is going to be more favored.

Granted Dave could be writing songs with no intended use in mind (whether it be for DMB or D&F), and then getting a feel for where the song could be best used between the two bands. But that kind of opens another issue I have with DMB's latest material, in that I get the impression that they feel that every member has to be featured in every song. If a song doesn't have an empty section where a violin solo can be inserted, then it's relegated to D&F.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:30 PM   #28
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Plus, I don't think it is established (in an interview or otherwise) that Stefan wrote the baseline of the song first. He very well could've started with the guitar riff (see Hunger).
I have no doubt he wrote the bassline and not the guitar part. Look at the musicianship behind the bassline of Dreaming Tree compared to the guitar part he wrote on Hunger. That bassline is serious. Even the guitar part of Tree is much better and more delicate than his grunge bullshit guitar playing. I could've played and written the Hunger part, he just beat me to it. There's not a ton of skill behind it.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:54 PM   #29
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I have no doubt he wrote the bassline and not the guitar part. Look at the musicianship behind the bassline of Dreaming Tree compared to the guitar part he wrote on Hunger. That bassline is serious. Even the guitar part of Tree is much better and more delicate than his grunge bullshit guitar playing. I could've played and written the Hunger part, he just beat me to it. There's not a ton of skill behind it.
I too think that he wrote the bassline to Dreaming Tree and not the guitar part, but I don't really get the other point you are making. Yeah, one is great and one sucks...
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:16 PM   #30
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I too think that he wrote the bassline to Dreaming Tree and not the guitar part, but I don't really get the other point you are making. Yeah, one is great and one sucks...
so what was the point in saying this:

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Plus, I don't think it is established (in an interview or otherwise) that Stefan wrote the baseline of the song first. He very well could've started with the guitar riff (see Hunger).
I was arguing that this ^ is most likely untrue. Then you agreed with my argument and said you didn't know what point I was making.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:22 PM   #31
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so what was the point in saying this:



I was arguing that this ^ is most likely untrue. Then you agreed with my argument and said you didn't know what point I was making.
Yes, like I said in the post above, I got the first point that you made (Stefan probably did not write the guitar riff to Dreaming Tree [you are the one here getting your points confused]). I just don't understand what you were babbling about when you started talking about Hunger and how that applies to whether he wrote the guitar riff to Dreaming Tree. I guess that you were trying to say that the Hunger riff sucks so much that there is no way he could've written the Dreaming Tree riff. While I don't think he wrote the riff, I disagree with that premise.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:34 PM   #32
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So listening to Keith's tape and this sounds fantastic. DMB is 2/2 with these new songs.
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:10 PM   #33
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These new songs are a level above the new songs from last year, IMO. Well, I suppose Shotgun and IOY are right there as well, but definitely way better than Can't Stop and Break Free.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:49 PM   #34
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The ending of Cornbread needs a little work IMO, but I'm not trying to shit on it. I think it'll evolve into a fantastic song based on this recent creativity boost.
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Old 08-05-2007, 06:22 PM   #35
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I am digging Cornbread but not as much so #27
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Old 08-05-2007, 06:24 PM   #36
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The ending of Cornbread needs a little work IMO, but I'm not trying to shit on it. I think it'll evolve into a fantastic song based on this recent creativity boost.
It's definitely very raw. There's a lot of room for improvement. Very nice first run through with the band though. I look forward to watching this one work itself out on stage.
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Old 08-05-2007, 06:25 PM   #37
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I am digging Cornbread but not as much so #27
Thats how I feel, not saying I dislike cornbread, just think Cornbread and 27 need at least more performances to evolve, and continue to get better.
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Old 08-05-2007, 06:40 PM   #38
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It's definitely very raw. There's a lot of room for improvement. Very nice first run through with the band though. I look forward to watching this one work itself out on stage.
Yep, I love seeing the progressions of the songs. It's great to be a part of.
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Yep, I love seeing the progressions of the songs. It's great to be a part of.
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Old 08-05-2007, 06:46 PM   #40
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Reminds me of '00, '04. Hopefully they combine the '04 and '06/'07 songs to make a fantastic album. That's what I'd do.
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