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Old 05-16-2016, 12:05 PM   #321
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I'm kinda conflicted because I like the chorus sections they added in, but have always thought it sounds a little awkward compared to the original
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Old 05-16-2016, 12:28 PM   #322
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But it has always had two or three great riffs
One of the main reasons I love it. I think it's one of most creative riffs Dave has created since his earlier days.
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Old 05-16-2016, 06:21 PM   #323
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I LOVE the riff and I think the chorus one of the best uses of the horns.
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Old 05-16-2016, 10:45 PM   #324
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Wait, you think that robbing Grey Street of its perfect emotional and musical build for the sake of brevity was a positive? Wow. Absolutely couldn't disagree more.
I agree with him, I thought the Busted Stuff trim from 2001 to 2002 was a good trim.
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Old 05-17-2016, 06:28 AM   #325
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Yeah the '02 versions, IMO, are the perfect length and that build is still there.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:26 AM   #326
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I love the final version of Grey Street that made BS. Managed really solid lyrics and a great build. Have always hated the cutting of the third verse for many reasons but mostly because the final emotional chorus "using colors bold and bright" gets there too soon. I love that in the BS version you get 3 times through with lines being added to each one. That being trimmed down robs the song of a good amount of its power to me. And that's completely forgetting about how it's executed in the live setting these days.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:39 AM   #327
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lyrically/thematically, I think the BS version is perfect. But I love the long loose jamminess of the 2000-01 live versions.
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:41 PM   #328
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I love the final version of Grey Street that made BS. Managed really solid lyrics and a great build. Have always hated the cutting of the third verse for many reasons but mostly because the final emotional chorus "using colors bold and bright" gets there too soon. I love that in the BS version you get 3 times through with lines being added to each one. That being trimmed down robs the song of a good amount of its power to me. And that's completely forgetting about how it's executed in the live setting these days.
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:46 PM   #329
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Yeah agreed with all. Thought that repeated chorus at the end before the outro was too much in 2000 - 2001. Every now and then he had enough lyrics to say "Hey the 7.7.01 version is awesome," sure. But in general it was a little too much. I remember Cincinnati Enquirer article before the show in 2000 interviewed him and he said he thought it was a little wordy, I'm surprised it took two years, and was't surprised it got cut down again. I should find that article. Probably more interesting now.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:23 AM   #330
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Has it been discussed that Mark Batson has a writing credit on this song?
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:42 AM   #331
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Has it been discussed that Mark Batson has a writing credit on this song?
I seem to recall that being discussed along with his credit on IOY. IIRC, someone found the songwriting credit/entry for IOY a while back on the ASCAP site. Then again, I could be totally making that up.
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:25 AM   #332
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I seem to recall that being discussed along with his credit on IOY. IIRC, someone found the songwriting credit/entry for IOY a while back on the ASCAP site. Then again, I could be totally making that up.
He's listed on the back of the sleeve for the new WH disc as having writing credits on Shotgun
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Old 05-20-2016, 07:24 PM   #333
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:40 PM   #334
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:48 AM   #335
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Hersheypark 2012 has to be one, if not, the best.
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:41 PM   #336
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Carter absolutely dominates that performance. Not my favorite Shotgun, 9/23/06 is, but that is an amazing one.
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:24 PM   #337
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That Shotgun was a real highlight of what was a really shitty situation of a show to be at.

I expect that one has a good shot of being back this winter.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:37 PM   #338
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Hersheypark 2012 has to be one, if not, the best.
I'm definitely in the 3.0 Shotgun camp. I think the song sounded it's best since Tim came on board. I know '06 had some good improv'd lyrics from Dave and I know the "set" lyrics to it are really mediocre, but overall the song got tighter and stronger to me in 3.0. I'd welcome it back, haven't heard it live since '12 I believe.
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:59 AM   #339
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I was at the debut and also the ‘12 Hershey. Love them both for different reasons

They never quite figured out what to do with that song, but I still love it.
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Old Yesterday, 08:38 AM   #340
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They did in 06/07, they just second guessed themselves like always plus then not playing it as frequent.
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