Come Tomorrow (LP 9) Album Discussion Thread (June 8, 2018) - Page 508

mja271 · 06-13-2018, 01:38 PM

Honestly the next line is just as perplexing.

nolan8or · 06-13-2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by typsitch

It's up there, contends for #1 certainly. But after that line, Dreamgirl isn't that bad in retrospect. Comparing full songs, CT is entirely more offensive than Dreamgirl.

I think i'd take CT over DG

NiCK (Crush) · 06-13-2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nolan8or

I think i'd take CT over DG

All day everyday, yes.

mario · 06-13-2018, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluewater34 [Only registered users can see links.]
Well, it actually makes sense, it’s just a head-spinningly dumb thing to say.

Can you explain how it makes sense? Because I don't get it.

The only way I can interpret it is if his dreamgirl wanted to visit China, he would dig her a hole to go there. But wouldn't it still be better for all parties involved to just buy an airplane ticket?

Edit: Whoops, I have it wrong, I thought the line was "unless you were already there". So strike all that.

mja271 · 06-13-2018, 01:40 PM

I'd take a bathroom break over either.

gweeps · 06-13-2018, 01:40 PM

I'm like a flunky for you, baby.

dmblaststop · 06-13-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NiCK (Crush)

The digging a hole to China lyric is the single worst lyric Dave has ever written.

"I call you up, you pick up" is pretty bad too

Define Dancing · 06-13-2018, 01:43 PM

Some thoughts after a few listens:

-That Girl Is You and Come Tomorrow are hideous and will be skipped every time I listen to this album.

-Here On Out and When I'm Weary are fine little songs, but very forgettable and I won't listen to them much.

-Love the music of Come On Come On, but the lyrics hurt the song IMO.

-I'll get killed for saying this, but I'd love to hear a full studio version of Be Yourself. I think people here have an irrational hatred for the song because of the gobbles and the association with the Ladies, but it's a funky song with a catchy chorus.

-Again And Again is a great fucking song, one of the best of the last decade. Just wish there were more horns and the jam extended longer.

-I prefer the 2006 version of Idea of You, but I'm glad this is on the album and the official cut is pretty damn good. The song is quintessential DMB to me.

-Can't Stop is actually a decent blues/rock song on here. Kinda dig it.

-She is a good rock song, but isn't nearly on the same level as the best songs on here.

-I loved Samurai Cop the first time I heard a live version, but it's already getting played out, which is too bad, because it's a good song.

-I feel like Black And Bluebird got neutered in the studio, which is a damn shame. They could have done so much more with this tune in the studio.

-Virginia In The Rain is so damn good. A return of the jazzy DMB that many of us love. Really great lyrics too-- a mix of melancholy, hope, love, and nostalgia.

-Do You Remember might become my favorite song on the album. The feel good nostalgia that this song evokes is so strong that it makes me remember why I fell in love with this band in the first place.

Overall, I'd say this is an uneven album, but the highs are really high (and lows are really low). The album has more feeling than AWFTW. You can tell Dave was more into this one. BW was cathartic, AFTW was a bit cold and precise, and this one seems much warmer, for better or worse. The top 5 songs on CT I would consider to be on par with other classic DMB songs, and I haven't been able to say that about an album since Busted Stuff/LWS. This one has brought me back into the fold as a fan, and that's saying something. Thumbs up from me.

mario · 06-13-2018, 01:47 PM

So let's try again.

I would dig a hole all the way to China
Unless of course I was there
Then I'd dig my way home
If by digging, I could steal
The wind from the sails of the greedy men who ruled the world

Now, I think this is a fair reconstruction of the sentiment into a more linear sentence:

If by digging [a hole to China], I could steal the wind from the sails of the greedy men who ruled the world
[then]
I would dig a hole all the way to China

Okay, so this works:

Unless of course I was there
Then I'd dig my way home

I'm not really sure why it's worth noting that, (if digging a hole from america to china would take the sails out of the greedy men to rule the world) he'd also be willing to start digging that same hole from the opposite direction if he was already on the opposite end, rather than presumably fly from China to America just so he could dig a hole back to China.

Right?

Mitch · 06-13-2018, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mario

This will also get stuck in your head:

Does that mean you should like the music?

That's my jam. Speaking of that, a couple of years ago my daughter who was about 13 at the time, upon hearing that jingle on my car radio, says to me "I don't get it, how do they give you a kid?"... She thought you were trading your car for a kid.

Mitch · 06-13-2018, 01:50 PM

Holy fuck, are we doing a critical analysis of the "dig a hole to China" DG lyric now??

NiCK (Crush) · 06-13-2018, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch

Holy fuck, are we doing a critical analysis of the "dig a hole to China" DG lyric now??

No, just mario.

Mitch · 06-13-2018, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Define Dancing

-Love the music of Come On Come On, but the lyrics hurt the song IMO.

You've obviously never pleaded with your woman to take it easy on you. I do that at least a few times a week, so this one hits home with me.

Good review overall

mario · 06-13-2018, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCK (Crush)

No, just mario.

Shit, I guess I took over three other posters accounts....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluewater34 [Only registered users can see links.]
Well, it actually makes sense, it’s just a head-spinningly dumb thing to say.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCK (Crush)

I was gonna say that, it's not that it's

necessarily cheesy or doesn't make sense - it's just so dumb to say.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mja271

Honestly the next line is just as perplexing.

NiCK (Crush) · 06-13-2018, 02:04 PM

I said the lyric was dumb. If you think that is "analysis" then sure, you got me.

dmb1981 · 06-13-2018, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mario

So let's try again.

I would dig a hole all the way to China
Unless of course I was there
Then I'd dig my way home
If by digging, I could steal
The wind from the sails of the greedy men who ruled the world

Now, I think this is a fair reconstruction of the sentiment into a more linear sentence:

If by digging [a hole to China], I could steal the wind from the sails of the greedy men who ruled the world
[then]
I would dig a hole all the way to China

Okay, so this works:

Unless of course I was there
Then I'd dig my way home

I'm not really sure why it's worth noting that, (if digging a hole from america to china would take the sails out of the greedy men to rule the world) he'd also be willing to start digging that same hole from the opposite direction if he was already on the opposite end, rather than presumably fly from China to America just so he could dig a hole back to China.

Right?

How much of your own time do you waste on a daily basis?

NiCK (Crush) · 06-13-2018, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmb1981

How much of your own time do you waste on a daily basis?

Posting on a DMB message board isn't a waste of time when you love DMB as much as he does dude.

celluloid hero · 06-13-2018, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmb1981

How much of your own time do you waste on a daily basis?

None of your fucking business.

NiCK (Crush) · 06-13-2018, 02:10 PM

mario · 06-13-2018, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCK (Crush)

I said the lyric was dumb. If you think that is "analysis" then sure, you got me.

06-13-2018, 01:40 PM	#10144
mario Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 16,229	Quote: Originally Posted by Bluewater34 [Only registered users can see links.] Well, it actually makes sense, it’s just a head-spinningly dumb thing to say. Can you explain how it makes sense? Because I don't get it. The only way I can interpret it is if his dreamgirl wanted to visit China, he would dig her a hole to go there. But wouldn't it still be better for all parties involved to just buy an airplane ticket? Edit: Whoops, I have it wrong, I thought the line was "unless you were already there". So strike all that. __________________

06-13-2018, 01:43 PM	#10148
Define Dancing Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 1,321	Some thoughts after a few listens: -That Girl Is You and Come Tomorrow are hideous and will be skipped every time I listen to this album. -Here On Out and When I'm Weary are fine little songs, but very forgettable and I won't listen to them much. -Love the music of Come On Come On, but the lyrics hurt the song IMO. -I'll get killed for saying this, but I'd love to hear a full studio version of Be Yourself. I think people here have an irrational hatred for the song because of the gobbles and the association with the Ladies, but it's a funky song with a catchy chorus. -Again And Again is a great fucking song, one of the best of the last decade. Just wish there were more horns and the jam extended longer. -I prefer the 2006 version of Idea of You, but I'm glad this is on the album and the official cut is pretty damn good. The song is quintessential DMB to me. -Can't Stop is actually a decent blues/rock song on here. Kinda dig it. -She is a good rock song, but isn't nearly on the same level as the best songs on here. -I loved Samurai Cop the first time I heard a live version, but it's already getting played out, which is too bad, because it's a good song. -I feel like Black And Bluebird got neutered in the studio, which is a damn shame. They could have done so much more with this tune in the studio. -Virginia In The Rain is so damn good. A return of the jazzy DMB that many of us love. Really great lyrics too-- a mix of melancholy, hope, love, and nostalgia. -Do You Remember might become my favorite song on the album. The feel good nostalgia that this song evokes is so strong that it makes me remember why I fell in love with this band in the first place. Overall, I'd say this is an uneven album, but the highs are really high (and lows are really low). The album has more feeling than AWFTW. You can tell Dave was more into this one. BW was cathartic, AFTW was a bit cold and precise, and this one seems much warmer, for better or worse. The top 5 songs on CT I would consider to be on par with other classic DMB songs, and I haven't been able to say that about an album since Busted Stuff/LWS. This one has brought me back into the fold as a fan, and that's saying something. Thumbs up from me. __________________ "Poetry must be at least as powerful as music, but I am not sure that is possible." - George Oppen

06-13-2018, 01:47 PM	#10149
mario Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 16,229	So let's try again. I would dig a hole all the way to China Unless of course I was there Then I'd dig my way home If by digging, I could steal The wind from the sails of the greedy men who ruled the world Now, I think this is a fair reconstruction of the sentiment into a more linear sentence: If by digging [a hole to China], I could steal the wind from the sails of the greedy men who ruled the world [then] I would dig a hole all the way to China Okay, so this works: Unless of course I was there Then I'd dig my way home I'm not really sure why it's worth noting that, (if digging a hole from america to china would take the sails out of the greedy men to rule the world) he'd also be willing to start digging that same hole from the opposite direction if he was already on the opposite end, rather than presumably fly from China to America just so he could dig a hole back to China. Right? __________________

06-13-2018, 02:04 PM	#10155
NiCK (Crush) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 50,501	I said the lyric was dumb. If you think that is "analysis" then sure, you got me. __________________ NC

06-13-2018, 02:10 PM	#10159
NiCK (Crush) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 50,501	__________________ NC

06-13-2018, 01:40 PM	#10146
gweeps Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kingston ON, Canada Posts: 24,834	I'm like a flunky for you, baby.

06-13-2018, 01:50 PM	#10151
Mitch Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Island Posts: 14,022	Holy fuck, are we doing a critical analysis of the "dig a hole to China" DG lyric now??

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